ardesia wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:33 amRule 14, the one about Building spam, is the result of a long and accurate brainstorming - not only among GMs: there are posts in forum where several players contributed with their opinion.
Spam building had a peak, some months ago, turning so bad a habit to force the staff designing an on-purpose rule, resulting in an actual spamming reduction.
The rule can be not easy to understand, and it is true that there are cases when things are not clear. Say clan wars, and have grey areas.
Now, this is the text of the rule. I am highlighting the parts I believe to be relevant in this case:
quickshot3's clan has no established base in 3.-3 map. He himself admitted he was building on the purpose of attacking another clan (point 1 of the rule), and his buildings have been placed very close to the other clan ones, while there was space to build elsewhere.
- Spam Clan: Creating a "spam clan" for the sole purpose of adding more buildings to an area that is done with the intention of annoying other clans is forbidden. The owner of the spam building will be punished as well as the main clan that the owner is affiliated. If the owner of the spam clan cannot be directly linked to a main clan, the main clan that is benefiting from the spam buildings will be punished.
- Clan Base: Building inside or near your clan base is allowed. This includes buildings that are outside of your clan's base, but not located within an enemy base. If your clan does not have a base, and you place buildings in a contested area, this may be considered spam. If your clan only places buildings, but does not improve the buildings to green hp, your buildings may be considered spam. If your clan places buildings outside of your clan's established base, and into a contested area or within an enemy's base area, this may be considered spam.
- Contested Area: Any area that is outside of an established clan base can be considered a contested area. An area where an active war is taking place can be considered a contested area.
The area has recently been a war zone and IMO it follows under the "contested area" definition (point 3).
One of the buildings was green, this is true, but there were others at the same time, red, unfinished, placed so to be annoying for the other clan (point 1 again).
The intention of building so to disturb the other clan has been declared in this very thread, as well in at least another channel.
Before acting I've analysed all screenshots I've been sent (by at least three players), and game records as well.
It is my opinion that the clan was building only with the intention of being disturbing, an opinion confirmed by quickshot3 himself.
If he has evidences against this opinion, he is welcome producing them and I will evaluate them. I am human, and can be wrong.
If he did appeal admins already, I suggest him providing said evidence to the admin.
There are a few points in this thread I'd like to comment.
If you didn't report this to any GM, please do it as soon as possible.quickshot3 wrote: I saw GRUZ (mak228) clan . it had several buildings and walls inside of TFoW.
As MadMikael already answered: yes, I've been duke of AofD. I've been active in clans life for quite a while, I know how clan war works, I know how building bases works. At joining the game staff, I left AofD and any other clan I was having alts in.benbaggen wrote: Another thing that really bugs me is y as the duke of AofD is she the one handling this problem.she clearly has some interest in this war....and may b why she handled the situation this way
You can ask an admin for a check on any character of mine: I have no characters in any clan involved in real gameplay. I have no personal interest in clan wars, I side no clan.
This is a point that youngsters (and not only them) often sadly miss. A private conversation on a social network - such as a FaceBook one - is private. Sharing parts of it with others, without the consent of all the involved ones, under certain conditions could be considered a violation of privacy laws.quickshot3 wrote: Some players that is well known about the rules told me send them screenshots about me and ardesia conversation.
I am fine with quickshot3 sharing screenshots of our chat with others - there's nothing to hide there.
I am just pointing this out because sharing screenshots of private conversations is never a good idea and could be dangerous.
Those 2 red buildings where green. if you actually looked at my screenshot you would see they where yellow. they where green but got red because the enemy clan was sieging.
So you telling me it's spam if I go against a clan and start building there ? they can destroy my buildings while I'm building duh. it's war Jesus I can't put buildings to work on them and get them high enough kill their catapults? And I confirm what exactly? it was a strategy and there is no spam in this.
I honestly have no idea how you thinking about this it's wrong in so many ways.
It's clan war. war happens. you telling me u can't build a tower near an enemy base to get it high lvl enough so it can kill them?
Then what is PvP and clan map??
This is not spamming. just a normal PvP. and I sold the complete castle that was shooting arrows when I relized I was outmached.
Now if I let the castle there it would be something else. that would be spamming. but I sold it because I knew I wouldn't be able get it high lvl while their tower is attacking me.
This is so wrong.