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Re: About Craft Exp

Post by Nyaon » Tue Jul 16, 2019 2:39 pm

Gullander wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:32 pm
Coincidentally It seems in this experiment the XP I got was ten fails times 31% or 3.1k xp which would equal what I got!!! :lol:
Oh!
Calculation of success rate × 10 may be correct!
I also crafted a gold plate with a success rate of 23% and failed 10 times, but the exp gained was 2k.
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Re: About Craft Exp

Post by Gullander » Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:53 pm

Haha...I hope not! If so then we should craft high % items and hope for more than expected fails! I still think something has changed, a factor that has changed the formula as given.
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Re: About Craft Exp

Post by kromelg » Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:13 pm

Game manual contains incorrect information.

Actual formula for craft XP:
craftXp = 1000 - CraftedItemChance - CraftSkill
where CraftSkill = 30*craftingLevel *craftingCoefficient
craftingCoefficient = 0.75 (swordsman) or 1 (mage, dwarf, ogre) or 1.5 (archer)

But I dont know when and why it was changed.
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Re: About Craft Exp

Post by SellSword » Thu Jul 18, 2019 3:51 pm

Interesting... I don't see that there would be a difference in craft xp whether the crafting was successful or not?

Given this calculation you should also get craft xp from high percentage crafts too. If one could quickly and easily craft items like planks or ingots they might be better off doing that in large numbers than going for the difficult crafts that take time? Seemingly the craft xp would be just a bit lower, but the volume would make up for that?
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Re: About Craft Exp

Post by Leone » Thu Jul 18, 2019 4:44 pm

I can't get my head around the formula.

Could someone come up with two or three examples to give the xp gained?

For example,
craft level 6 swordsman attempting to craft a 500 sword

Craft level 5 archer attempting to craft a 750 club

...and so on

(Change levels, classes and items to suit. These just sprung to mind)
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Re: About Craft Exp

Post by LostKnight » Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:04 pm

kromelg wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:13 pm
Game manual contains incorrect information.

Actual formula for craft XP:
craftXp = 1000 - CraftedItemChance - CraftSkill
where CraftSkill = 30*craftingLevel *craftingCoefficient
craftingCoefficient = 0.75 (swordsman) or 1 (mage, dwarf, ogre) or 1.5 (archer)

But I dont know when and why it was changed.
How would that apply to:
Craft LvL: 8 Affinity: 0.75
CraftedItemChance = 18% for Gold Plate(150)
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Re: About Craft Exp

Post by Nyaon » Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:06 pm

kromelg wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:13 pm
クラフトXPのための実際の公式:
craftXp = 1000 - CraftedItemChance - CraftSkill
ここでCraftSkill = 30 * craftingLevel * craftingCoefficient craftingCoefficient =
0.75(刀剣)または1(魔術師、小人、鬼)または1.5(射手)
According to the calculation, if the level 5 archer fails to craft a gold plate with a success rate of 23%,

1000-(23 * 10 = 230)-(30 * 5 * 1.5 = 225) = 545 exp

I will get 545exp.
Oh?
Is this calculation correct?
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Re: About Craft Exp

Post by Leone » Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:23 pm

I presume * is multiply.

So the reason there is the 23 * 10 is 23% = 23/100 or 230/1000. If so, i understand now.
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Re: About Craft Exp

Post by Leone » Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:38 pm

LostKnight wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:04 pm
kromelg wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:13 pm
Game manual contains incorrect information.

Actual formula for craft XP:
craftXp = 1000 - CraftedItemChance - CraftSkill
where CraftSkill = 30*craftingLevel *craftingCoefficient
craftingCoefficient = 0.75 (swordsman) or 1 (mage, dwarf, ogre) or 1.5 (archer)

But I dont know when and why it was changed.
How would that apply to:
Craft LvL: 8 Affinity: 0.75
CraftedItemChance = 18% for Gold Plate(150)
1000 - (18 × 10) - (30 × 8 x 0.75)

= 1000 - 180 - 180

= 640 xp
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Re: About Craft Exp

Post by LostKnight » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:04 pm

EDIT: Ninja'd by Leone - but will post anyway. Since the % calculation is either:

1000*18/100, or
1000*.18 or
by casting out 0's
1000*18/100
10 *18 :D

=== was doing it ===
If I read that right:

craftXp = 1000 - CraftedItemChance - CraftSkill
CraftedItemChance = 1000*18/100 = 180
CraftSkill = 30*8*.75 = 180

1000 - 180 - 180 = 640
1000-(1000*18/100)-(30*8*.75) = 640xp

EDIT 2: At fist I forgot the "1000" and 180-180 just didn't seem fair! :arrow: :mrgreen: :lol: :lol:
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