Forgotten Tales

A newly player recently informed me that they had their entire clan pretty much devastated by the actions of a member who not only stole all the contents of their buildings, but then proceeded to sell almost of the clan buildings too. I have been pressing them to report this, however, it is unclear to me whether it would even be punished. I certainly would, but there's not really a lot detailing the dos and don'ts regarding clan rules.

Interesting situation, but I'm not sure what rule(s) the lord would have broken.

As far as stored items go they can be taken out by anyone with access and nobody should store items there they don't mind others using. How could one say the lord didn't have permission to take the items?

As far as selling buildings... If that's a power lords have it would be difficult to prove something something was against a rule. It's a tougher situation to argue, but maybe the lord says they misunderstood something that was said some time before or something. You would basically have to prove that someone shouldn't have done something they had the game power to do, right?

It sounds mostly like trusting someone that shouldn't have been trusted.

agree with sellsword
spies and traitors are allowed in clan play, no rule can restore what is lost for trusting a player
it's sad but happens

As SellSword and hungry_wolf say:

A matter of who you trust.

Spies and traitors exist in RL, they exist in clan life. It's a part of the clan game.

I'm hoping/guessing he was booted from the clan.

To answer everyone, the perpetrator did not have permission from the Duke to do any of these things. He simply ransacked the buildings, took their, admittedly meagre holdings (10 magic trunk) Then proceeded to delete all but one of their builds, before presumably leaving the clan. Granted, being Lord is to a degree a level of power given in trust, but I find it curious that it's regarded as within game rules when abused in the manner described.

However, if so, then let it be known that Arthas_M was the player who decided this was an acceptable course of action to take against a fledgling clan.

idk how is now, past times when I started to become lord were necessary months of any kind of effort for clan, be present, faithful, work , fight, help all members. moreover, be able to organize and be known and trusted. this should be the way to choose a lord, and what I tried to be and find in others. this are my suggestions

hungry_wolf wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:48 pm agree with sellsword
spies and traitors are allowed in clan play, no rule can restore what is lost for trusting a player
it's sad but happens

No were in the rules it says that selling everything isont allowed. Besides how wold someone make a rule forbing it?
Idea:
"Rule x: no selling of buildings without promision"
Question 1. What if I wnat to sell somthing to let my other accs in?(assuming he would do it) Duke: I didn't understand rules but I think he needs punishment...
Question 2. Can i remove a tower before it dies to get gold back? (Asuming he does it) duek: no promision, reported...
Is an example but just think about it. If lord has no promision to sell so why would lord exist? Why wouldn't everyone make everyone lord it would not mater...

It just doesn't make snece to have a lord and ponishim him for selling. It's the dukes fault to lord him.

TangledSwerve wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 7:36 pm To answer everyone, the perpetrator did not have permission from the Duke to do any of these things. He simply ransacked the buildings, took their, admittedly meagre holdings (10 magic trunk) Then proceeded to delete all but one of their builds, before presumably leaving the clan. Granted, being Lord is to a degree a level of power given in trust, but I find it curious that it's regarded as within game rules when abused in the manner described.

However, if so, then let it be known that Arthas_M was the player who decided this was an acceptable course of action to take against a fledgling clan.

Did any rule tell him to get promision?
Well I do agree selling all isont good but I totlay agree to it being dukes fault.
Who ever Duke was, everyone makes mistakes..

Did any rule tell him to get promision?
Well I do agree selling all isont good but I totlay agree to it being dukes fault.
Who ever Duke was, everyone makes mistakes..

This is very definition of toxic gameplay, if there is no rule against it - there should be. And it should absolutely not be accepted as part of play, clan or not.

Trust is easily abused and the fault absolutely does not lie entirely upon the shoulders of the Duke. This broad acceptance and dismissive attitude of particularly dishonest & malicious gameplay feeds a basis of player that could be significantly diminished - if there were clear & irrefutable rules regarding it.

Until then, players like this will have free reign to ruin the game for others. And frankly, that's not something I will ever abide by.

TangledSwerve wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:24 pm This is very definition of toxic gameplay, if there is no rule against it - there should be. And it should absolutely not be accepted as part of play, clan or not.

Trust is easily abused and the fault absolutely does not lie entirely upon the shoulders of the Duke. This broad acceptance and dismissive attitude of particularly dishonest & malicious gameplay feeds a basis of player that could be significantly diminished - if there were clear & irrefutable rules regarding it.

Until then, players like this will have free reign to ruin the game for others. And frankly, that's not something I will ever abide by.

You've got my vote!

And a nice clean avatar too!