Removing Spawn Limit through Drop Chance Change
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- terminator
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Removing Spawn Limit through Drop Chance Change
The idea was created by Gullander, and this is merely putting into actual numbers. One of the main reasons for the addition of the spawn limit; I believe, was to decrease high levels killing mass low level monsters for drops. This caused rapid inflation in gold prompting for change. Here is an idea to remove the spawn limit through a drop chance change.
Drop Percent = ((1/(Current_Drop_Chance * Player_Level))^.25) * Current_Drop_Chance.
Some numbers off this:
Killing a level 1000 monster with a 1/1000 chance
Lvl 500 (1/1000)*(120% drop chance)
Level 1000 1/1000
Level 1500 (1/1000) * (90% chance)
Level 2000 (1/1000) * (85% chance)
Level 8000 (1/1000) * (59%)
As you may notice, lower levels recieve a drop buff, while levels above the monster see a little bit of a decrease. This is just an example, the spectrum can be widened so that the player the same level as the monster may get a buff etc. The decreasing amounts can also be altered, as just an example. Thanks to Gullander for proposing the level drop chance change!
Drop Percent = ((1/(Current_Drop_Chance * Player_Level))^.25) * Current_Drop_Chance.
Some numbers off this:
Killing a level 1000 monster with a 1/1000 chance
Lvl 500 (1/1000)*(120% drop chance)
Level 1000 1/1000
Level 1500 (1/1000) * (90% chance)
Level 2000 (1/1000) * (85% chance)
Level 8000 (1/1000) * (59%)
As you may notice, lower levels recieve a drop buff, while levels above the monster see a little bit of a decrease. This is just an example, the spectrum can be widened so that the player the same level as the monster may get a buff etc. The decreasing amounts can also be altered, as just an example. Thanks to Gullander for proposing the level drop chance change!
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- terminator
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Re: Removing Spawn Limit through Drop Chance Change
And just to explain it a little more. We could have it set that you still are getting an XP buff if your double the monsters lvl. This is just if you like the concept or not
Last edited by terminator on Wed Sep 04, 2019 12:20 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Removing Spawn Limit through Drop Chance Change
A nice idea.
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Re: Removing Spawn Limit through Drop Chance Change
You may select up to 3 options ---> I choose only 2
Awesome!
- simply because drop rates need looking at, and
Players the same level as should have a drop buff
Players of the same level or lower should have a buff. Not a HUGE buff but increasing a little the lower a player gets, to make the "challenge" worthwhile, after all, you're looking at a fast trip to Map 0.0
And I do not think this should be applied to ALL monsters. But certainly the drop rates that come close to finding a needle in a haystack (1 or 2%) or pulling chickens teeth (anything less than 1%) (ie: not a chance in a hot place)
Whatever brings back unlimited spawn!
- I though the limit was to control auto-clickers. And until that is a least slowed to a dribble (doubt it will ever go away 100%) leave the limit. I have no problem moving. It was first implemented when I was fighting worms in Hobb's Gold Mine. Never thought I'd see the limit run out but it did and moving a matter of a few paces was no bother at all. Unlimited spawn only invites auto-clickers to try again. And, let's face it, if it's fix "perfect" today, they will find a way around it at sometime in the future. Maybe raise the limit a little?
The percent is not low enough for high lvls
- I was going to click this but that would be unfair. After all drop rates are a RNG spin of the wheel called "Luck" and a 50% drop chance might just mean you have to kill 10 monsters to get 2 drops.
The percent is way to low for high lvls
- see comment above
I have a better idea (stated below)
- nope, just explaining yes|no choices and why.
The spawn limit should stay
- as seen above: Maybe raise the limit a little? There is no problem with moving. As one of my high level friends said: auto-spawn 8 at a time it will never run out. Because of my character I prefer 2 or 3 at a time, as long as it's steady. "I" can only attack one at a time - ever!
Something else I think, not sure how it works, but ALL quest drops should be at a minimum 5% drop rate, but higher is good.
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Awesome!
- simply because drop rates need looking at, and
Players the same level as should have a drop buff
Players of the same level or lower should have a buff. Not a HUGE buff but increasing a little the lower a player gets, to make the "challenge" worthwhile, after all, you're looking at a fast trip to Map 0.0
And I do not think this should be applied to ALL monsters. But certainly the drop rates that come close to finding a needle in a haystack (1 or 2%) or pulling chickens teeth (anything less than 1%) (ie: not a chance in a hot place)
Whatever brings back unlimited spawn!
- I though the limit was to control auto-clickers. And until that is a least slowed to a dribble (doubt it will ever go away 100%) leave the limit. I have no problem moving. It was first implemented when I was fighting worms in Hobb's Gold Mine. Never thought I'd see the limit run out but it did and moving a matter of a few paces was no bother at all. Unlimited spawn only invites auto-clickers to try again. And, let's face it, if it's fix "perfect" today, they will find a way around it at sometime in the future. Maybe raise the limit a little?
The percent is not low enough for high lvls
- I was going to click this but that would be unfair. After all drop rates are a RNG spin of the wheel called "Luck" and a 50% drop chance might just mean you have to kill 10 monsters to get 2 drops.
The percent is way to low for high lvls
- see comment above
I have a better idea (stated below)
- nope, just explaining yes|no choices and why.
The spawn limit should stay
- as seen above: Maybe raise the limit a little? There is no problem with moving. As one of my high level friends said: auto-spawn 8 at a time it will never run out. Because of my character I prefer 2 or 3 at a time, as long as it's steady. "I" can only attack one at a time - ever!
Something else I think, not sure how it works, but ALL quest drops should be at a minimum 5% drop rate, but higher is good.
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Re: Removing Spawn Limit through Drop Chance Change
I voted for whatever brings unlimited spawns back.
I will say this. An afk check every hour may be easy to avoid if it's the same time all the time.
I will say this. An afk check every hour may be easy to avoid if it's the same time all the time.
- terminator
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Re: Removing Spawn Limit through Drop Chance Change
An idea to help all ranges of players.
1. Allow unlimited spawning
2. Stop inflation of gold from happening from unlimited spawning
3. Allow lower levels a better chance for drops
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Re: Removing Spawn Limit through Drop Chance Change
I believe that with the current % that it is very difficult for all levels to get drops.
Even as a 5211 archer, it still takes me a very long time to get any drops from any mobs.
I trust your math though. Whatever may come will be fine.
Even as a 5211 archer, it still takes me a very long time to get any drops from any mobs.
I trust your math though. Whatever may come will be fine.
- terminator
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Re: Removing Spawn Limit through Drop Chance Change
Is just the concept for now, dont listen to the math values, as its like 0, a place holder until the numbers everyone feel's fair is found.
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Re: Removing Spawn Limit through Drop Chance Change
I will take your advice.
Re: Removing Spawn Limit through Drop Chance Change
The prices of literally every item have been reduced with update with new maps so that it will not allow you to make huge earnings even without spawn limit.I doubt it a bit.
Last edited by Mr_Maks on Wed Sep 04, 2019 7:25 am, edited 2 times in total.