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Let's talk a little bit about the dark

Post by srle0nida$ » Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:45 pm

Hello everyone! I've been playing Forgotten Tales for a long time and I've always seen that they hear our voice.

I understand that developers have their own ideas for the game, but I think it's super important to emphasize the importance of public opinion too!

I'm talking about the new game lighting system. It has become almost impossible to walk inside the caves, the torch lighting is minimal.

I recently did the mission of the Hobb´s mine in another account of mine and even though I did it once and knowing the way I felt very difficult!

I understand and found the night mode cool too. But frankly speaking it ended up driving many players away. I know players who have stopped or been discouraged because of the darkness everywhere.

I wanted to know the opinion of the community about this, and if possible a response from the game team!

Thanks for your attention, Good game! :)
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Re: Let's talk a little bit about the dark

Post by SellSword » Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:08 pm

One issue with the community voice is that it changes. Months ago LostKnight even did a poll for thoughts on the dark and how people liked it.
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Re: Let's talk a little bit about the dark

Post by Leone » Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:26 pm

Here is the original thread that has been updated recently:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=17351&p=127267#p127267

My own view is that I like the day/night feature, but perhaps some areas of the game are a little too dark (ptery map mentioned - that's a good example).

I'm going to play devil's advocate here as well. When you say this feature 'is driving many players away', where is the evidence of this?

Please don't think that I am disputing your word, but more that I'm saying that I have not seen a single forum or Facebook post from a player stating the direct reason for leaving the game is because of the lighting.

Opinions are important - that's exactly what the forum is for. However, if players don't voice their opinions collectively and constructively in our official ft forum then how can they be considered?
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Re: Let's talk a little bit about the dark

Post by Gullander » Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:58 pm

It has caused for me a couple changes in how I play, but that doesn't mean if I have had to change that it is bad. In general a game that remains stagnant without changes, updates, and new content will also lose players. Have I stumbled around in dark dungeons? Yes, sometimes even ones I thought I knew. Did I continue to stumble? No, next time I go back I remember (hopefully :lol: ) where I turned wrong so it stops being an issue. I have had to rely upon the mini map more to see mobs forming and other players approaching. Is it perfect? No, sometimes stuff happens quicker than I anticipated. But next time I am more careful to watch. Do I fish and mine more when darkness comes? Yes, but now more interesting items can be fished, and mining is always a dull thing to do or crafting or cutting trees so nighttime gives me a perfect time to do that. Again it was an adjustment but not where I could not find a useful way to spend the time. So I have adjusted. Would I rather have light all the time like the first 2 1/2-3 years of playing? Probably yes but that's more because I am a creature of habit and resistant to change. (unless of course it's a change in my favor that I really like :D ) We can be so fickle sometimes. I can oh and ah how beautiful the glowing crystals look in the dungeons under Silverwood but be grouchy about the mages under kings garden who come out of the darkness in twos trying to zap you!

I do however have concerns for the players who only have a small amount of time to play. If the only time they can play is during the darkness periods that would indeed be discouraging to not have access to full light very often. New players I think will see the night as a given and part of how the game works.
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Re: Let's talk a little bit about the dark

Post by srle0nida$ » Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:54 pm

SellSword wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:08 pm
One issue with the community voice is that it changes. Months ago LostKnight even did a poll for thoughts on the dark and how people liked it.
Its true!
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Re: Let's talk a little bit about the dark

Post by cotne7 » Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:58 pm

I dont like new night mode..and i advice everyone to play with ft7 version where is no dark mode..it will be sing of protest and maybe then combatant will hear us then.
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Re: Let's talk a little bit about the dark

Post by cotne7 » Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:59 pm

Anyone who wants to instal ft 7 pm me and i will send you link.i m so intresting how many people using ft7 or 6 already
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Re: Let's talk a little bit about the dark

Post by srle0nida$ » Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:01 pm

Leone wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:26 pm
Here is the original thread that has been updated recently:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=17351&p=127267#p127267

My own view is that I like the day/night feature, but perhaps some areas of the game are a little too dark (ptery map mentioned - that's a good example).

I'm going to play devil's advocate here as well. When you say this feature 'is driving many players away', where is the evidence of this?

Please don't think that I am disputing your word, but more that I'm saying that I have not seen a single forum or Facebook post from a player stating the direct reason for leaving the game is because of the lighting.

Opinions are important - that's exactly what the forum is for. However, if players don't voice their opinions collectively and constructively in our official ft forum then how can they be considered?
For sure!

About some people complaining about the darkness it was in the Brazilian community. Some acquaintances of mine and others from a group on WhatsApp talking about it complaining.
Ex: Macielho1 (sword 4k) he told me that one of the biggest reasons to stop playing was the darkness.

Silvanio (2k sword) he told me yesterday that he also didn't like being too dark.

Among other people in a group!

Thanks for your response!
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Re: Let's talk a little bit about the dark

Post by srle0nida$ » Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:05 pm

Gullander wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:58 pm
It has caused for me a couple changes in how I play, but that doesn't mean if I have had to change that it is bad. In general a game that remains stagnant without changes, updates, and new content will also lose players. Have I stumbled around in dark dungeons? Yes, sometimes even ones I thought I knew. Did I continue to stumble? No, next time I go back I remember (hopefully :lol: ) where I turned wrong so it stops being an issue. I have had to rely upon the mini map more to see mobs forming and other players approaching. Is it perfect? No, sometimes stuff happens quicker than I anticipated. But next time I am more careful to watch. Do I fish and mine more when darkness comes? Yes, but now more interesting items can be fished, and mining is always a dull thing to do or crafting or cutting trees so nighttime gives me a perfect time to do that. Again it was an adjustment but not where I could not find a useful way to spend the time. So I have adjusted. Would I rather have light all the time like the first 2 1/2-3 years of playing? Probably yes but that's more because I am a creature of habit and resistant to change. (unless of course it's a change in my favor that I really like :D ) We can be so fickle sometimes. I can oh and ah how beautiful the glowing crystals look in the dungeons under Silverwood but be grouchy about the mages under kings garden who come out of the darkness in twos trying to zap you!

I do however have concerns for the players who only have a small amount of time to play. If the only time they can play is during the darkness periods that would indeed be discouraging to not have access to full light very often. New players I think will see the night as a given and part of how the game works.
Very good to read!

But I do not mean removing the night mode, but perhaps a smoothing, it will clearer, the torch had a longer reach! Something like that.

Thanks for your answer
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Re: Let's talk a little bit about the dark

Post by srle0nida$ » Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:08 pm

cotne7 wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:58 pm
I dont like new night mode..and i advice everyone to play with ft7 version where is no dark mode..it will be sing of protest and maybe then combatant will hear us then.
That is a possibility!


But ft8 has surprising news, especially with the item exchange system. :D

Ty for answer
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