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upgraded items not dropped in pvp.

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pvp is so boring without drops.upgraded items are not droppable as everyone knoews.its very boring.
so i offter that upraded items drop chance will be much lower then normal item but it must be possible to drop it.
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Re: upgraded items not dropped in pvp.

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I'm sorry, but I disagree.

A huge deciding factor spending money on those upgrades was exactly that they don't drop in pvp.

Frankly, to change this simply because you're bored doesn't sit well with me at all, and is not fair on those who spent real money.
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I know players who have purchased upgrades (real money or gold purchases) because of the no-drop factor. Plenty of players don't like PvP in the first place so why penalize someone for taking precautions?
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PVPers have had a free for all for years!

While people that do not PvP, do not like PvP, just want to play the game grinding, mining, crafting and doing quests without having to go through this:
  1. fighting mobs for that 0.1% drop, then
  2. fight another mob for a 1% drop, and then be faced with:
  3. craft the item with a 28% chance of success
  4. failed - start again at 1
    • maybe after 4 or 5 attempts we craft the "gear"
  5. Then 3 PvPer's gang up on you to get your hard earned gear at a 30% drop rate.
    • And if they don't get it first time → they try again!
TRUE STORY:

I used "3 PvPers" above because this is what happened to me.
  1. I was attacked by three PvPers
  2. I logged off
  3. waited a few minutes and logged back on.
  4. they were still there, waiting, and attacked me again
  5. I logged a second time
  6. I walked a low level alt over near the area and had him hunting lions in the desert (Map 1.1)
  7. when I saw they left I logged back on
  8. life line was RED and short - a very close call!
Now convince me that's fair!

They are still on my (i) list, I still see 2 of them around.
1 is in permanent jail.
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Re: upgraded items not dropped in pvp.

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SellSword wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:54 pm I know players who have purchased upgrades (real money or gold purchases) because of the no-drop factor. Plenty of players don't like PvP in the first place so why penalize someone for taking precautions?
if you dont like pvps stay out of clans.
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Leone wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:47 pm I'm sorry, but I disagree.

A huge deciding factor spending money on those upgrades was exactly that they don't drop in pvp.

Frankly, to change this simply because you're bored doesn't sit well with me at all, and is not fair on those who spent real money.
as i remember they were dropable from the first day they were released and it was changed after 2 or 3 days.
leone believe me this rule that those gears are undropable in pvps will be changed soon or later..becouse people will complain about it soon or later.
and after it will be changed i think that you will say:good job combatant!!your making really great work.you will not mantion that its unfair decesion anymore.
you or lost knight does not envolve in pvp at all...
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LostKnight wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 9:13 pm PVPers have had a free for all for years!

While people that do not PvP, do not like PvP, just want to play the game grinding, mining, crafting and doing quests without having to go through this:
  1. fighting mobs for that 0.1% drop, then
  2. fight another mob for a 1% drop, and then be faced with:
  3. craft the item with a 28% chance of success
  4. failed - start again at 1
    • maybe after 4 or 5 attempts we craft the "gear"
  5. Then 3 PvPer's gang up on you to get your hard earned gear at a 30% drop rate.
    • And if they don't get it first time → they try again!
TRUE STORY:

I used "3 PvPers" above because this is what happened to me.
  1. I was attacked by three PvPers
  2. I logged off
  3. waited a few minutes and logged back on.
  4. they were still there, waiting, and attacked me again
  5. I logged a second time
  6. I walked a low level alt over near the area and had him hunting lions in the desert (Map 1.1)
  7. when I saw they left I logged back on
  8. life line was RED and short - a very close call!
Now convince me that's fair!

They are still on my (i) list, I still see 2 of them around.
1 is in permanent jail.
your saying that its unfair 3 players attacking you and waiting you while you get back on?
i m not sure why its unfair...becouse of 3 vs 1?ok 3 vs 1 is unfair but its game and its pvp.i would help those 3 to kill you tho :D
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cotne7 wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 1:05 am if you dont like pvps stay out of clans.
First of all, I never have been in a clan, and others who I have spoken to that enjoy the no-drop aspect are not in clans either. You also know full well that not being in a clan does not eliminate all PvP.

You are certainly entitled to your opinion though. I respect that, but I disagree with it.
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SellSword wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 4:19 am
cotne7 wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 1:05 am if you dont like pvps stay out of clans.
First of all, I never have been in a clan, and others who I have spoken to that enjoy the no-drop aspect are not in clans either. You also know full well that not being in a clan does not eliminate all PvP.

You are certainly entitled to your opinion though. I respect that, but I disagree with it.
then you can buy pvp protection.
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cotne7 wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 1:17 am your saying that its unfair 3 players attacking you and waiting you while you get back on?
i m not sure why its unfair...becouse of 3 vs 1?ok 3 vs 1 is unfair but its game and its pvp.i would help those 3 to kill you tho :D
You did not convince me at all.
It tells me the ONLY reason you PvP is to get free gear, Without FREE GEAR it's boring!
You said so in your opening statement, the first six words of your post:
pvp is so boring without drops
ok 3 vs 1 is unfair
but you would change 3 vs 1 to 4 vs 1 to get that piece of gear!
You should hear yourself. Does changing 3-vs-1 to 4-vs1 make it fair, just to get the gear?

You answered Sellsword: If you don't like PvP don't join a clan.
It didn't even occur to you that SellSword is not in a clan because "pvp is so boring without drops" is the only thing your mind can focus on.

It's NOT a pvp game. It is a role-playing adventure game of which PvP game is one aspect along with grinding, questing, mining, chopping and fishing and the social aspect of meeting friends.

If you find that PvP is b·o·r·i·n·g with no drops, stop PvPing
You may as well stop since a LOT of clan people, like people not in a clan, are now wearing "upgraded gear."

So why would they do that?
- Well the 1st reason is: it is now "no_drop" gear.


A lot of clan people I know do not PvP non-clanned people. And I do have a lot of friends in clans. They war, they siege, they build and craft and PvP each other because that's the aspect of the game they enjoy. And they are enjoying it now with "no_drop" gear!

Let me add one last thing here:

"upgraded gear" is NOT PVP protection. You can still join those 3 that are attacking me and make it 4 on one.
There is one simple change: You have 0% chance of getting a piece of upgraded gear, but you can still kill me if you are lucky enough!
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