KORIA PERM JAIL???

[Leone]

Also, the 'there will be consequences...' bit.

Edit: sorry - already been mentioned

[blitzcraig]

LordSeth, under different circumstances, I think you've probably got the characteristics needed to be a good GM. I'd have to have a lengthy, specific conversation with you and get to know some things better before I'd "back you" for it though. However, at least for right now, my guess is that you wouldn't be considered because of your stated goal, and an obvious bias against one specific player... I'm not saying that bias isn't deserved, but that cannot be the driving force behind your desire to be a GM, know what I mean? Anyway, that's my thought on it off the top of my head

To answer another question though; yes, one individual GM can have a big impact on any aspect of the game. This includes rule compliance by players, and punishment for breaking those rules. Things like these are determined by the team as a whole, but one passionate voice can certainly impact the team's decision.

As for dealing with cheaters, still the best thing we can do as players is to make proper reports when we see rules broken. If there's a large number of players constantly being harassed by the same player, in a way that is against the rules, the most effective thing we can do is to report, report, report. If you like, you could even write up a few templates of what a good report would look like, and then your friends could just fill in the name, time, violation etcetera - to help make sure the GMs get all the information they need every time.

[blitzcraig]

On a different note, here's a thought about allowing leniency with particular accounts being shared based on how they play. I've seen here several times people saying that sharing should be allowed if it's a peaceful player, who doesn't get involved in PvP or clan wars and stuff like that. Here's my question: What would happen if the account that has gotten all those extra levels from being shared starts playing differently? For example: Account Superman just grinds quietly all the time, 24 hours a day because 6 different people are using it. GMs decide to allow it because they're not attacking anybody. 2 years from now, Superman is no longer shared, but the owner starts getting in a lot of PvP, and destroying clan buildings. Where could we go from there? can't jail it now because it's not shared anymore... can't let it wreak havoc on other players, because the levels were gotten by cheating in the first place - - There's simply no good answer, which is why it cannot be allowed, no matter how the account is currently played.

[LordSeth]

Not to be insulting or disrespectful but this new rule is nonsense. As everyone knows including all GMs the only reason shared accounts are reported is warfare cases auto clicking cases neglecting or harassing cases or password panics witch can easily be recovered by the account owner. Yes I do agree with buying or traiding should be absolutely prohibited with punishment as perm jail of the account. But I see no harm in sharing for tank usage to level a lower account I don't see harm in sharing to upgrade clan buildings. It is at the players own risk if he/she wishes to trust a friend or family member to use a account without abusing it.

If jaya can get away with all that he has done then there needs to be leniency toward other players in non-neglective cases.

I'll share the new rule as a reminder if someone does not understand what I'm talking about lol

[LordSeth]

I appreciate that blitz and I understand your point on account sharing however if the account got that big by sharing why would it be a problem if levels are purchased like now one person alone can do the same without breaking rules.

[LordSeth]

That's where my suggestion should take place and there should be a max level set for character's imo 3k-4k is big enough but I'd be glad to see a maxed account at level 5000. If we can go back to the PvP balancing conflict there is absolutely NO way to balance PvP to make the game fair as long as levels to be purchased. There is less than 15 accounts that are over level 5000 that I know of. And from what I seen with my own eyes it is not that difficult to take levels off of a character nor is it to add levels to a character for a administrator. If the cap could be set to 5k you could take a 8k player and ask witch account they want 3k levels added to then take the 3k off of the 8k account and put them on the character of the players choice. That would even the odds for alot and help all the players that cant afford to buy levels tremendously. And with the max level cap set even a shared account could not be accused of cheating when any player can make a account and buy 4900 levels to do the same thing the shared account took 2 years to do. If anything could be considered cheating it would be level buying in my eyes.

[Nahgus]

Sharing no matter what the intent is is bad. Period.

If a player can't play there account then no one else should be able to play it either.

It is unfair to every other player that puts their time into leveling or building skills. Even tanking for another is cheating.

[Nahgus]

That's where my suggestion should take place and there should be a max level set for character's imo 3k-4k is big enough but I'd be glad to see a maxed account at level 5000. If we can go back to the PvP balancing conflict there is absolutely NO way to balance PvP to make the game fair as long as levels to be purchased. There is less than 15 accounts that are over level 5000 that I know of. And from what I seen with my own eyes it is not that difficult to take levels off of a character nor is it to add levels to a character for a administrator. If the cap could be set to 5k you could take a 8k player and ask witch account they want 3k levels added to then take the 3k off of the 8k account and put them on the character of the players choice. That would even the odds for alot and help all the players that cant afford to buy levels tremendously. And with the max level cap set even a shared account could not be accused of cheating when any player can make a account and buy 4900 levels to do the same thing the shared account took 2 years to do. If anything could be considered cheating it would be level buying in my eyes.

What about players that don't have alts? Where will their levels go?

[death911]

I just want to make my point clear. I am against all types of Sharing accounts. Agreed Sharing for Mining or Upgrading clan buildings etc.. won't harm anybody. But at other times the same player may use it for PVP or LVLing up quietly if sharing would be allowed.
So yes all kind of Sharing needs be stopped..
BUT the rules need be implemented the proper way. that's what i want to say. Yes they have mentioned it in the links under Rule 2. But it's better that they mention it clearly in the Rules itself and As A SYSTEM MESSAGE , so that everyone sees it and then no one can claim ignorance..( Don't take me wrong if i say that many other announcements come under SYSTEM MESSAGE which are far less important than this announcement regarding Sharing accounts)
And i am against Permanent Jail for 1st time offenders. 1st time offenders should receive temporary jail and repeat offenders should get Permanent Jail.

[death911]

That's where my suggestion should take place and there should be a max level set for character's imo 3k-4k is big enough but I'd be glad to see a maxed account at level 5000. If we can go back to the PvP balancing conflict there is absolutely NO way to balance PvP to make the game fair as long as levels to be purchased. There is less than 15 accounts that are over level 5000 that I know of. And from what I seen with my own eyes it is not that difficult to take levels off of a character nor is it to add levels to a character for a administrator. If the cap could be set to 5k you could take a 8k player and ask witch account they want 3k levels added to then take the 3k off of the 8k account and put them on the character of the players choice. That would even the odds for alot and help all the players that cant afford to buy levels tremendously. And with the max level cap set even a shared account could not be accused of cheating when any player can make a account and buy 4900 levels to do the same thing the shared account took 2 years to do. If anything could be considered cheating it would be level buying in my eyes.

I agree with the level cap suggestion . But putting lvl cap at 5k or 8k is not feasible. it should be above the max lvl a player has attained