GM help us clear up the misunderstandings

[Yfars]

It's funny, all I see is rule breakers complaining about the GM team
I don't see any player that keeps to the rules complaining that we ruin the game, mainly because they never see us, and when they do they have no reason to fear us being there, because they did nothing wrong.

I have no friends in game, I have no enemies, I never clanned and never attack people with ill intentions (I do slow people alot then run away that's called a joke some will get it some wont) I grind and offer sanctuary to anyone that asks to join me if I don't want to grind alone regardless of language or where they are from

That being said, I have personally overseen or newest JrGM and I am the one that has decided all punishments given by him, so all the claims about him picking sides is completely wrong, as he would not take an action without my say so.

And just to try and clear somethings up

If I tell you that your account is permanently jailed and you attempt to try and go around the GM team, then I will talk to comp personally and make sure that the punishment given will stick

No one is jailed without being told why, just because you don't like the answer don't mean we haven't told you, posting screenshot that take things out of context won't help

For example Opasniis post, what he dont show is that I explained it to him three times, then when I released that he was just going to keep saying the same things over again, yes I told him to work it out from what I already told him

I could name and shame almost everyone that has posted here crying that they don't know why, I could also post the proof showing you all as liers that it was explained, and you did indeed break the rules
That is all privileged information that normal players do not have access to but the GM team has at there finger tips

So please keep bashing the GM team for your own mistakes and maybe one day the world will see all the secrets you don't want to come out come out

All them alts used to kill friends pets
All the horrendous language that would deeply upset your mother's
All the people caught auto clicking or just afk

I'm quite sure no player would like there dirty laundry put out in public

So going forward the solutions to all this is quite simple, stop breaking rules, you will have no issue with the GM team, keep breaking rules you will be caught and punished, maybe not as soon as you done it, but everything is recorded in the games logs and you will be punished eventually

Can you or any other GMs finally take the time to explain to the players who posted here the reason and duration of their punishment? Why do many players who partially or completely do not understand why they were punished decide to cooperate and create this post, but they were still ignored and after that they even decided to bother me? Maybe you will do what you threaten the players about in your message, and you can explain to them what they are doing wrong? This is exactly what they initially asked for in their messages and even agreed to the publication of information concerning them. There is nothing overly secret about explaining to the player what and when he did wrong. Before I left the GMs, I proposed making various changes, including openly showing general information about player punishments, and now the FT is again faced with the problem of misunderstanding of punishments...

[Barkley]

Can you or any other GMs finally take the time to explain to the players who posted here the reason and duration of their punishment? Why do many players who partially or completely do not understand why they were punished decide to cooperate and create this post, but they were still ignored and after that they even decided to bother me? Maybe you will do what you threaten the players about in your message, and you can explain to them what they are doing wrong? This is exactly what they initially asked for in their messages and even agreed to the publication of information concerning them. There is nothing overly secret about explaining to the player what and when he did wrong. Before I left the GMs, I proposed making various changes, including openly showing general information about player punishments, and now the FT is again faced with the problem of misunderstanding of punishments...

I have been asking the GM team for years look at my case. I have been told to ask in certain ways, to wait for certain things and that certain things will happen, yet the team doesn't keep by it's word.

What nobody in my case seems to realise is, what if I actually am telling the truth and going through all of this due to no fault of my own?

If the team just had a productive, even short, conversation with me if would be easy to uncover where the mistake lies that incorrectly may have made the GMs believe some rules were broken. It's wasted over a hundred hours of my time and nothing is ever done.

[madmaniacal1]

It's funny, all I see is rule breakers complaining about the GM team
I don't see any player that keeps to the rules complaining that we ruin the game, mainly because they never see us, and when they do they have no reason to fear us being there, because they did nothing wrong.

I have no friends in game, I have no enemies, I never clanned and never attack people with ill intentions (I do slow people alot then run away that's called a joke some will get it some wont) I grind and offer sanctuary to anyone that asks to join me if I don't want to grind alone regardless of language or where they are from

That being said, I have personally overseen or newest JrGM and I am the one that has decided all punishments given by him, so all the claims about him picking sides is completely wrong, as he would not take an action without my say so.

And just to try and clear somethings up

If I tell you that your account is permanently jailed and you attempt to try and go around the GM team, then I will talk to comp personally and make sure that the punishment given will stick

No one is jailed without being told why, just because you don't like the answer don't mean we haven't told you, posting screenshot that take things out of context won't help

For example Opasniis post, what he dont show is that I explained it to him three times, then when I released that he was just going to keep saying the same things over again, yes I told him to work it out from what I already told him

I could name and shame almost everyone that has posted here crying that they don't know why, I could also post the proof showing you all as liers that it was explained, and you did indeed break the rules
That is all privileged information that normal players do not have access to but the GM team has at there finger tips

So please keep bashing the GM team for your own mistakes and maybe one day the world will see all the secrets you don't want to come out come out

All them alts used to kill friends pets
All the horrendous language that would deeply upset your mother's
All the people caught auto clicking or just afk

I'm quite sure no player would like there dirty laundry put out in public

So going forward the solutions to all this is quite simple, stop breaking rules, you will have no issue with the GM team, keep breaking rules you will be caught and punished, maybe not as soon as you done it, but everything is recorded in the games logs and you will be punished eventually

Can you or any other GMs finally take the time to explain to the players who posted here the reason and duration of their punishment? Why do many players who partially or completely do not understand why they were punished decide to cooperate and create this post, but they were still ignored and after that they even decided to bother me? Maybe you will do what you threaten the players about in your message, and you can explain to them what they are doing wrong? This is exactly what they initially asked for in their messages and even agreed to the publication of information concerning them. There is nothing overly secret about explaining to the player what and when he did wrong. Before I left the GMs, I proposed making various changes, including openly showing general information about player punishments, and now the FT is again faced with the problem of misunderstanding of punishments...

Let me get this straight.
An admin of a completely different game, who had the chance to be an impartial GM of FT and failed at it, is trying to tell a GM of FT that they should violate GM protocols and directly reveal investigation results to the public?
Nevermind the fact that Reven (IN THE QUOTED POST) told us all that the player had been told the details 3 times before the comment that the player took out of context.
For that matter, why are you here, taking the sides of the rulebreakers against GMs? Is OV really so independent that you have time to interfere in FT, or is the game just that inactive? If you have any LEGITIMATE grievances against the GM team, instead of public posturing, I'm pretty sure you could've easily addressed this issue behind the scenes.
Ok. I'm done.
Have a nice day, and a great year.

[Jdjsnaba]

It's funny, all I see is rule breakers complaining about the GM team
I don't see any player that keeps to the rules complaining that we ruin the game, mainly because they never see us, and when they do they have no reason to fear us being there, because they did nothing wrong.

I have no friends in game, I have no enemies, I never clanned and never attack people with ill intentions (I do slow people alot then run away that's called a joke some will get it some wont) I grind and offer sanctuary to anyone that asks to join me if I don't want to grind alone regardless of language or where they are from

That being said, I have personally overseen or newest JrGM and I am the one that has decided all punishments given by him, so all the claims about him picking sides is completely wrong, as he would not take an action without my say so.

And just to try and clear somethings up

If I tell you that your account is permanently jailed and you attempt to try and go around the GM team, then I will talk to comp personally and make sure that the punishment given will stick

No one is jailed without being told why, just because you don't like the answer don't mean we haven't told you, posting screenshot that take things out of context won't help

For example Opasniis post, what he dont show is that I explained it to him three times, then when I released that he was just going to keep saying the same things over again, yes I told him to work it out from what I already told him

I could name and shame almost everyone that has posted here crying that they don't know why, I could also post the proof showing you all as liers that it was explained, and you did indeed break the rules
That is all privileged information that normal players do not have access to but the GM team has at there finger tips

So please keep bashing the GM team for your own mistakes and maybe one day the world will see all the secrets you don't want to come out come out

All them alts used to kill friends pets
All the horrendous language that would deeply upset your mother's
All the people caught auto clicking or just afk

I'm quite sure no player would like there dirty laundry put out in public

So going forward the solutions to all this is quite simple, stop breaking rules, you will have no issue with the GM team, keep breaking rules you will be caught and punished, maybe not as soon as you done it, but everything is recorded in the games logs and you will be punished eventually

Can you or any other GMs finally take the time to explain to the players who posted here the reason and duration of their punishment? Why do many players who partially or completely do not understand why they were punished decide to cooperate and create this post, but they were still ignored and after that they even decided to bother me? Maybe you will do what you threaten the players about in your message, and you can explain to them what they are doing wrong? This is exactly what they initially asked for in their messages and even agreed to the publication of information concerning them. There is nothing overly secret about explaining to the player what and when he did wrong. Before I left the GMs, I proposed making various changes, including openly showing general information about player punishments, and now the FT is again faced with the problem of misunderstanding of punishments...

Let me get this straight.
An admin of a completely different game, who had the chance to be an impartial GM of FT and failed at it, is trying to tell a GM of FT that they should violate GM protocols and directly reveal investigation results to the public?
Nevermind the fact that Reven (IN THE QUOTED POST) told us all that the player had been told the details 3 times before the comment that the player took out of context.
For that matter, why are you here, taking the sides of the rulebreakers against GMs? Is OV really so independent that you have time to interfere in FT, or is the game just that inactive? If you have any LEGITIMATE grievances against the GM team, instead of public posturing, I'm pretty sure you could've easily addressed this issue behind the scenes.
Ok. I'm done.
Have a nice day, and a great year.

Everything he said is really true. I would say this is the best post here
And if you cannot accept the truth about this, then I am very sorry for you
I will laugh when you find yourself in the place of those people xD
And unlike FT OV Various mechanics are being developed and updated all the time.
Therefore, what you wrote at the end can only be described in one word CRINGE

[Yfars]

Let me get this straight.
An admin of a completely different game, who had the chance to be an impartial GM of FT and failed at it, is trying to tell a GM of FT that they should violate GM protocols and directly reveal investigation results to the public?
Nevermind the fact that Reven (IN THE QUOTED POST) told us all that the player had been told the details 3 times before the comment that the player took out of context.
For that matter, why are you here, taking the sides of the rulebreakers against GMs? Is OV really so independent that you have time to interfere in FT, or is the game just that inactive? If you have any LEGITIMATE grievances against the GM team, instead of public posturing, I'm pretty sure you could've easily addressed this issue behind the scenes.
Ok. I'm done.
Have a nice day, and a great year.

1. I don't see any protocols for GMs that clearly prohibit publicly or privately saying something like "You were sent to jail for 3 days for killing other player's mobs" to a player. This message reveals absolutely no information about the investigation of a particular case and simply briefly recounts the action that occurred, which often initially occurs in front of other players, and announces the punishment. And please note that all these staff rules and so on were written by such respected GMs as Ardesia, DaHobbit, etc. And have the same text in FT and OV
2. Maybe since the players were able to cooperate and write such a fairly competent post, it would be worth seeing a possible problem and resolving it?
3. Ok, let GMs continue to value their privacy in everything, but they may well write a personal answer to a specific player in response to his request here and report it here with a link to the message (the link will be absolutely useless for all players, but the desired player will be able open it). The player will most likely take a screenshot of the message and send it here, but in any case, everyone will know that the GM did not ignore and responded to the player

[Gullander]

Why don't we just open Pandora's Box and see what happens!

Definition: a process that generates many complicated problems as the result of unwise interference in something.

Let's just give amnesty to every one who has ever been jailed or in trouble!! Let's let chaos reign!! Let everyone run wild!!

Not too long ago players were complaining about no GM's active !!

Open the box and pay the price!!! Go on...feel justified...feel like something has been won...but once opened the doom cannot be undone!!!

[madmaniacal1]

Let me get this straight.
An admin of a completely different game, who had the chance to be an impartial GM of FT and failed at it, is trying to tell a GM of FT that they should violate GM protocols and directly reveal investigation results to the public?
Nevermind the fact that Reven (IN THE QUOTED POST) told us all that the player had been told the details 3 times before the comment that the player took out of context.
For that matter, why are you here, taking the sides of the rulebreakers against GMs? Is OV really so independent that you have time to interfere in FT, or is the game just that inactive? If you have any LEGITIMATE grievances against the GM team, instead of public posturing, I'm pretty sure you could've easily addressed this issue behind the scenes.
Ok. I'm done.
Have a nice day, and a great year.

1. I don't see any protocols for GMs that clearly prohibit publicly or privately saying something like "You were sent to jail for 3 days for killing other player's mobs" to a player. This message reveals absolutely no information about the investigation of a particular case and simply briefly recounts the action that occurred, which often initially occurs in front of other players, and announces the punishment. And please note that all these staff rules and so on were written by such respected GMs as Ardesia, DaHobbit, etc. And have the same text in FT and OV
2. Maybe since the players were able to cooperate and write such a fairly competent post, it would be worth seeing a possible problem and resolving it?
3. Ok, let GMs continue to value their privacy in everything, but they may well write a personal answer to a specific player in response to his request here and report it here with a link to the message (the link will be absolutely useless for all players, but the desired player will be able open it). The player will most likely take a screenshot of the message and send it here, but in any case, everyone will know that the GM did not ignore and responded to the player

Firstly, GMs not discussing punishments publicly has LONG been the standard of GM protocols, since even before OV existed:

None of these appear to be cases related.tp your account, so we can't comment further. Thanks for your understanding.

Next,
All the players giving specific cases in this thread WERE told why they were jailed, as GM Aogon pointed out:

-My game nickname is Legat2 lvl 3861
Date of punishment 25.12.2023
-the punishment was issued without explanation (which point of the rules was violated)
-I was punished for using mobs in PVP.

So, you were told why you were punished. Case closed.

-Opasnii- , 442 level , 12/24.23 Opasnii , 907 level , 12/16.23
I don't understand why I was put in prison. I was jailed for attempting to kill pets for a month, ...

It seems like you're pretty clear on why to me.

The player who posted the "out of context" screenshot from GM RevenShas WAS told why they were jailed, 3 times, but refused to accept the answer:

...

No one is jailed without being told why, just because you don't like the answer don't mean we haven't told you, posting screenshot that take things out of context won't help

...

For example Opasniis post, what he dont show is that I explained it to him three times, then when I released that he was just going to keep saying the same things over again, yes I told him to work it out from what I already told him

...

It seems you're ignoring these details in order to cast doubt on the FT GM team, although I couldn't possibly understand why.

[madmaniacal1]

Why don't we just open Pandora's Box and see what happens!

Definition: a process that generates many complicated problems as the result of unwise interference in something.

Let's just give amnesty to every one who has ever been jailed or in trouble!! Let's let chaos reign!! Let everyone run wild!!

Not too long ago players were complaining about no GM's active !!

Open the box and pay the price!!! Go on...feel justified...feel like something has been won...but once opened the doom cannot be undone!!!

Sure, why not? I just convinced Comp to comply with the exact letter of the Apple Store ToS, and now permanently jailed accounts can be deleted like anyone else's.
Let the games begin!

[LostKnight]

Sure, why not? I just convinced Comp to comply with the exact letter of the Apple Store ToS, and now permanently jailed accounts can be deleted like anyone else's.
Let the games begin!

Say what!
Every permanently jailed player can delete their account!

Well Gull, there you go: Pandora's Box has been opened!

[Barkley]

Sure, why not? I just convinced Comp to comply with the exact letter of the Apple Store ToS, and now permanently jailed accounts can be deleted like anyone else's.
Let the games begin!

Say what!
Every permanently jailed player can delete their account!

Well Gull, there you go: Pandora's Box has been opened!

What's so dramatic?
When someone decides to delete their account, they'll just get the name.... Nothing else.
So that's practically irrelevant.