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Re: FT getting to soft

Posted: Fri May 31, 2024 9:08 pm
by Leone
I'm not saying I disagree with the principle, just being realistic bearing in mind the timing.

Also, of course, this is exactly the right place for suggestions.

As an aside, it'll be interesting to see if anyone thinks the rules should be relaxed. The question to ask there is 'why?'

Re: FT getting to soft

Posted: Fri May 31, 2024 9:12 pm
by DwarfTank
Leone wrote: Fri May 31, 2024 9:08 pm I'm not saying I disagree with the principle, just being realistic bearing in mind the timing.


I agree with you

Re: FT getting to soft

Posted: Fri May 31, 2024 9:14 pm
by Ayoub
Hello all .
Beautiful and reasonable suggestions.
I agree should be no mercy with rules breakers. But :

Do you think this rules works on this game ?
How many players online a day ? And How many peaceful and pvp lovers between those players? If we make statistics you ll find only few players who love PEACE .

- must players log everyday for pvp am 1 of them . Yes this game didn't start as pvp game but try to remove pvp or just part from it and see the results. ( Best exemple was colored items).

That's why we should have more experience pvp GMs to applie the rules. Cus the only 1 who investigate and give the investigation his time very well is akkiles. (PvP investigation).

And for rules do you think taking 50% lvls or perm jaill for simple rule break is solution ? Lol then you ll play this game only you and compbatant.( Game already have small community we must study the rules very well before bring them out).

Hunting is a part of the game guys, that's why outlaw exist it's already a punishment (guards on shop can kill u. You are not allowed to join partys . U die far from star map, everyone can kill you ..) why we remove his bags to ?? :lol:

For players who love peace: the Best solution is to sty neutral. Then rare when you get attked. Or just log off. Ik alot of peaceful players no 1 atk them, Its normal. If you don't want take risks there a pvp protection at shop. And if you don't want to see pvp at all there's offline game at play store to,compbatant made it for that reason for calm and peaceful players.

this is my opinion.have good day all.

Re: FT getting to soft

Posted: Fri May 31, 2024 9:24 pm
by Rothost
DwarfTank wrote: Fri May 31, 2024 9:03 pm
Outlawed players must "lose" the backpack pets...any pet on said outlaw will be "quarentined" at Pet Companion until outlaw status is over, if there are pets already in the Companion stable, you will have to chose the two you keep (the other 2 will be released).

Perhaps there can be made a Pet Jail of sorts, where pets will be stored untill Outlaw Status has expired...making your proposal of: "At the end of outlaw status, they may reclaim their pets"
possible (may need to add a pet jail on Outlaw Map)

"pets bought for real money cannot be activated until outlaw status is over"
Pets bought for real money can also be sent to the Pet Jail untill Outlaw Status has expired, instead of being placed in the Pet Companion Stable, I think we should keep the two separated if possible.


the problem with a pet jail is people will try to use it as storage and have MORE than the 2 pet storages in game...ESPECIALLY if you allow outlaws to buy pet and activate it

Re: FT getting to soft

Posted: Fri May 31, 2024 11:28 pm
by DwarfTank
the problem with a pet jail is people will try to use it as storage and have MORE than the 2 pet storages in game...ESPECIALLY if you allow outlaws to buy pet and activate it
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Understood

Re: FT getting to soft

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2024 12:08 am
by DwarfTank
Ayoub wrote: Fri May 31, 2024 9:14 pm Hello all .
Beautiful and reasonable suggestions. Thanks 😀
I agree should be no mercy with rules breakers. But :

Do you think this rules works on this game ?

Yes because current rules have "may be" in the punishment equation.

How many players online a day ? And How many peaceful and pvp lovers between those players?

I have no way of knowing how many players are online OR how many players favor Peaceful Gameplay vs PvP Lovers, I'm sure it could be figured out and maybe it will be shared so we know.

If we make statistics you ll find only few players who love PEACE .

This may be true but FT isn't PvP Game as before mentioned by others FT is a game that offers PvP if players choose to play that way.

- must players log everyday for pvp am 1 of them . Yes this game didn't start as pvp game but try to remove pvp or just part from it and see the results. ( Best exemple was colored items).

as before mentioned, if the reason to PvP is to gain another player's equipment then PvP of such nature is dishonorable.

That's why we should have more experience pvp GMs to applie the rules. Cus the only 1 who investigate and give the investigation his time very well is akkiles. (PvP investigation).

And for rules do you think taking 50% lvls or perm jaill for simple rule break is solution ?

Yes, because current rules are too soft (proof evident by repeat offenders) and none of the rules should be seen as "simple" and all rules should be taken seriously. Few to None take the rules seriously because the current punishments for rule breaking are too relaxed.

Lol then you ll play this game only you and compbatant.

Only those not following the rules will say things like that

( Game already have small community we must study the rules very well before bring them out).

Hunting is a part of the game guys, that's why outlaw exist it's already a punishment (guards on shop can kill u. You are not allowed to join partys . U die far from star map, everyone can kill you ..) why we remove his bags to ?? :lol:

Currently being an outlaw is a joke overall, the restrictions placed on outlaw players are supposed to be enough to stop players from becoming outlaws because outlaw status is not encouraged by GMs and is supposed to be a punishment but once again the restrictions for outlaws are not strict enough

For players who love peace: the Best solution is to sty neutral. Then rare when you get attked. Or just log off. Ik alot of peaceful players no 1 atk them, Its normal. If you don't want take risks there a pvp protection at shop. And if you don't want to see pvp at all there's offline game at play store to,compbatant made it for that reason for calm and peaceful players.

Rebuttal can be made that if players want to PvP and end up with Outlaw Status then they should be ready and willing to accept punishment for engaging in PvP outside of clan maps. No should be made to buy PvP Protection period, because PvP Protection wasn't made for player's to bully others into buying, I do believe that falls under Rule 7 and offline game wasn't intended to be used in bullying tactics either.

this is my opinion.have good day all.

indeed you did share your opinion and good day to you as well

Re: FT getting to soft

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2024 12:30 am
by Rothost
LostKnight wrote: Fri May 31, 2024 6:28 pm
→ Allow people to choose when they create an account:
Activate PvP: Yes [ ] No [ ]
Choice is not reversible,
NOTE: If you chose No you cannot join a clan.

EDIT: The above option should be offered to all existing players once as well
→ if you are in a clan and you say NO you will be removed from the clan. This is not reversible.
The problem with a 1 time choosing, is that some people that don't like pvp ARE IN CLANS, mainly for the comradery of working with others, THAT is why we have nuetral clans

Re: FT getting to soft

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2024 2:43 am
by Galbatrox
Ayoub wrote: Fri May 31, 2024 9:14 pm
That's why we should have more experience pvp GMs to applie the rules. Cus the only 1 who investigate and give the investigation his time very well is akkiles. (PvP investigation).
Akkilles is not the only one who knows how to and how PvP works, not only does past and current members of the GM team knows how to PvP but I think you are forgetting how many times we PvPed beside each other. I myself have helped in multiple PvP reports and the other GMs also have knowledge on how it works.

Furhtermore every single report gets the proper time and investigation into reports, no matter how big or small, if only you knew how many different cases have been solved and how long each one took, even the PvP ones

Re: FT getting to soft

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2024 3:27 pm
by LostKnight
Rothost wrote: Sat Jun 01, 2024 12:30 am The problem with a 1 time choosing, is that some people that don't like pvp ARE IN CLANS, mainly for the comradery of working with others, THAT is why we have nuetral clans
It's not perfect but would still work for you because as it sits right now: If you are in a clan, liking PvP or not, anyone in a clan can still attack you.

Re: FT getting to soft

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2024 5:35 am
by Gullander
There is a perception, that being peaceful in such a game as FT, is somehow a weakness, and perhaps not worthy of such at times violent and war torn play. On the contrary it is the finest example of strength. Anyone can return hit for hit or insult for insult or vie for his honor of clan or national origin. But to walk in the midst of that and sully no one by words or actions, to hold no one in contempt no matter their origin or creed, is the harder pathway, to be friendly to all even if they seem to wrong you though playing legally within the rules. I have always contended it is every FT citizens right to play however they wish lawfully whether it is my style or not. That is a peace and respect we all should hold. I was once told, by one I highly respected and everyone knew, that the game needed peaceful players to help keep the game in balance. Over the 7 years of play I haven't changed and have known many "sons" who in peaceful friendship found me of benefit. It isn't flashy this peace thing, and the contrast at times can be troubling and at times I do try to comment here for balance whether I am heard or not, because that's what peace does it seeks for the middle ground where all can keep their dignity. Maybe I should find a friendlier game and raise vegetables or put myself out to pasture in some agrarian Utopia without conflict, but that's the easy route isn't it. Being for peace in a battle that's the hard choice. I'm no one of any note and my faults are many so I condemn no one with my words, nor do I make myself anything as if I am somehow special, I just know there are some who share this peaceful philosophy.