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Re: Link vs AD

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 8:48 am
by Secular
Asmodeous wrote:
timecosum wrote:Wait a minute Asmodeous.... Did you say AD has intelligence?!?!?!?!?! :lol:
Told ya to keep repairing that tower or let it fall because both work out for me. But I appreciate the attempt at what your trying to say :P

I also love links tactics (this doesn't apply to you afaik time Co sum). Let's all log off, grab other devices aswell with our unclanned and try to stand in the way, shout stuff. Spam sell and spam friends requests. Lol.

So not only do you try to get us killed (which failed lol) and block (which failed lol) and freeze (win for 58 anti freeze) the link who used their alts had to go through every form of mechanics abuse imagineable.

Who wants a couple of screenshots? Lol the effort that was put in was pretty epic. Got 8 of them.

Loved your reasons too scorp for all of that but I won't post your reasons that you gave me :lol: people might start thinking differently lol.

What you're describing here breaks an in-game rule, reducing the game-play experience of others, and should be reported if it's persistent & happens each battle with an opposing clan.

We can check these things.

Re: Link vs AD

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 10:18 am
by Dr DOOM
tsk tsk. better do exactly what dahobbit did to me and wipe out entire city! or would that hurt your spcincter?

Re: Link vs AD

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 3:15 pm
by Asmodeous
Secular wrote:
Asmodeous wrote:
timecosum wrote:Wait a minute Asmodeous.... Did you say AD has intelligence?!?!?!?!?! :lol:
Told ya to keep repairing that tower or let it fall because both work out for me. But I appreciate the attempt at what your trying to say :P

I also love links tactics (this doesn't apply to you afaik time Co sum). Let's all log off, grab other devices aswell with our unclanned and try to stand in the way, shout stuff. Spam sell and spam friends requests. Lol.

So not only do you try to get us killed (which failed lol) and block (which failed lol) and freeze (win for 58 anti freeze) the link who used their alts had to go through every form of mechanics abuse imagineable.

Who wants a couple of screenshots? Lol the effort that was put in was pretty epic. Got 8 of them.

Loved your reasons too scorp for all of that but I won't post your reasons that you gave me :lol: people might start thinking differently lol.

What you're describing here breaks an in-game rule, reducing the game-play experience of others, and should be reported if it's persistent & happens each battle with an opposing clan.
We can check these things.
If it happens again I'll send you these screenshots and the next.

Re: Link vs AD

Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 10:43 am
by Trilix
Some answers for you, iso.
Let's go back a little while when You approached me (on your return to game), and insisted on having peace between Link and new formed AD, even offering me a 'Lord position' in AD, to keep peace, u remember that?
well, I do....
Did I ever broke that agreement? No, as always, I kept my side of the agreement so you could build your castle.
Then as usual, I get attacked by the very same people that asked for peace, BTW, that was a cool move to get your castle on the way, and seem that as soon as it was strong enough, you then come to me with talks of 'war is imminent'.
When we spoke at houses map, I was logged all the time, but busy, so I was afk a lot. But never stop answering you.... I did understand the message very clear, that once again AD would not keep peace, but still, you wanted me to agree on war and I did not agree, just said I'd wait to see outcome. You did ask me to have a 1v1, but to me that did not meant war, just fun games,,,,,, (my bad for misunderstanding it). You did say, however, that it would be players, not buildings.... (sad if you don't remember that....).
And yes, as you posted, you say you made all efforts to warn me, however, after all, it also could be seen as you gathering info on my response or gaining time with talks while already preparing for war, or simply it could be a nice gesture as you put it... don't take me wrong, but you have to admit that it's a lot of talking if you already had made your mind about war....
I went up to your camp and got ganged up by AD, average of 4000 levels against me, died most of the time, lost lots of drops (hat, boots, amulet, etc), but still came back and it was fun. Not once I spammed anyone with friends or sale requests. If other players did, then it's their doing, but bare in mind that all the low levels unclanned hanging around your camp stealing heal also do the same, including attacking and logging so they can't be attacked. I got some of them few times, so soon I will become outlaw by proxy.... and as for conduct, each player is responsible for their actions, so if someone spamming you, report it if you must.
Disrespect and bad language is not accepted in FT, so on this point, if you have shots of players saying 'bad things' you should report immediately.
As for spies, there is always an alt in some clan or another, and players giving info from inside, helping a friend in another clan, etc, that's inevitable.
The issue with players using clan banner as excuse to attack allies and try to provoke war is an old one and it's very hard to control. As I said above, each player is responsible for their actions, and when necessary the player is kicked from clan. The biggest problem is when friendship interfere in clan affairs, but again, there's lots of players friends with 'enemy clan' players, so when wars breaks, people have to decide what to do.... Also personal issues with certain players could create an issue between clans, but it's part of the game.... today ally, tomorrow enemy.....

Re: Link vs AD

Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 10:48 am
by PiVoRuS
I want to see the screenshots, upload them here

Re: Link vs AD

Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 3:45 pm
by Arachnia
PiVoRuS wrote:I want to see the screenshots, upload them here
For complaints, it's recommended not to post screenshots here, but to send them via PM to a mod or admin.

Re: Link vs AD

Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 4:26 pm
by Asmodeous
Trilix wrote:Some answers for you, iso.
Let's go back a little while when You approached me (on your return to game), and insisted on having peace between Link and new formed AD, even offering me a 'Lord position' in AD, to keep peace, u remember that?
well, I do....
Did I ever broke that agreement? No, as always, I kept my side of the agreement so you could build your castle.
Then as usual, I get attacked by the very same people that asked for peace, BTW, that was a cool move to get your castle on the way, and seem that as soon as it was strong enough, you then come to me with talks of 'war is imminent'.
When we spoke at houses map, I was logged all the time, but busy, so I was afk a lot. But never stop answering you.... I did understand the message very clear, that once again AD would not keep peace, but still, you wanted me to agree on war and I did not agree, just said I'd wait to see outcome. You did ask me to have a 1v1, but to me that did not meant war, just fun games,,,,,, (my bad for misunderstanding it). You did say, however, that it would be players, not buildings.... (sad if you don't remember that....).
And yes, as you posted, you say you made all efforts to warn me, however, after all, it also could be seen as you gathering info on my response or gaining time with talks while already preparing for war, or simply it could be a nice gesture as you put it... don't take me wrong, but you have to admit that it's a lot of talking if you already had made your mind about war....
I went up to your camp and got ganged up by AD, average of 4000 levels against me, died most of the time, lost lots of drops (hat, boots, amulet, etc), but still came back and it was fun. Not once I spammed anyone with friends or sale requests. If other players did, then it's their doing, but bare in mind that all the low levels unclanned hanging around your camp stealing heal also do the same, including attacking and logging so they can't be attacked. I got some of them few times, so soon I will become outlaw by proxy.... and as for conduct, each player is responsible for their actions, so if someone spamming you, report it if you must.
Disrespect and bad language is not accepted in FT, so on this point, if you have shots of players saying 'bad things' you should report immediately.
As for spies, there is always an alt in some clan or another, and players giving info from inside, helping a friend in another clan, etc, that's inevitable.
The issue with players using clan banner as excuse to attack allies and try to provoke war is an old one and it's very hard to control. As I said above, each player is responsible for their actions, and when necessary the player is kicked from clan. The biggest problem is when friendship interfere in clan affairs, but again, there's lots of players friends with 'enemy clan' players, so when wars breaks, people have to decide what to do.... Also personal issues with certain players could create an issue between clans, but it's part of the game.... today ally, tomorrow enemy.....
Got your wires crossed. I never approached you and offered you a lord position. I can't do that. I can't offer that. I'm the last to even suggest who should be a lord. That's always been something I've stayed out of. The deal I heard, and this is what I was told. Someone wanted to purchase grindix. They offered peace, a cash offer and help to recover some of the war funds with you along with a lord position in GODZ. That's what I got told.

I then got told after whatever happened they went and purchased an account off someone else instead because the cash asked for was a bit too high. They went elsewhere. A good hint. It wasn't me.

I spoke to you as I understood things at the time. I spoke plainly and clearly. Perhaps a miscommunication I don't know. There was no talks on "so we could build our castle" I said we were going to build a functioning clan that wasn't based on strict invites only.

I described my clan functions to you. Why I was a lord (grudgingly at the time). About the peace. I asked for your honest opinion. You gave it to me. You stated yourself you didn't believe it would hold for long anyway. I said why don't we call it for what it is because I don't agree itl hold up for that long as it is. I gave you my reasons why.

You did not wish to call it for what it was. You were comfortable where you were is what you said. "Diplomacy and strategy" your words. I did ask for a 1v1, to kick it all off. It was a proper gesture. It wasn't an information gathering technique. Ft doesn't really require a huge indepth information network because people talk anyway. There's not much to gain. Go to clan map look at buildings. Loom at building levels. Look at people with clan tag. Done.

Alright so I guess then since the "war for fun" was somehow communicated I'll try a bit hard in future talks with anyone to get the point across so I'm sorry for that.

I hate this next bit as much as you do. It happens to us on your end of the map. Happens to you on our end of the map. Happens to both of us on our own maps too. Randoms coming in to watch who get in the way. Block things up. Throw knives just so they can say "I killed him" ok sweet deal. It's annoying when unclanned do this on clanned maps

It's funny once. Maybe twice. But that's it. Those people up there weren't ours. They weren't our alts. The ones when we were attacking your tower were unclanned. Purposely knowing what they were doing. Today it was unclanned who had their mains in link.

I queried them on it because we knew. They full well knew what they were doing. They were fine with this. I don't always send out screenshots because someone's had a bad day or snapped a bit. I get it. It happens. Others might send it in religiously. That's just not me. I'd like to think that if I go off the rails a bit because somethings gone on or I'm generally frustrated someone around me might just give me that 2nd chance and not send it in.

If it's just blatant abuse then that's different. Spamming friends requests and trades. Done by the same person who jumps on his archer alt and sits there doing what he knows he isn't meant to do. There are screenies piv. But their not for you you don't exactly need them.

Theyl go where their suppose to go after I rar them or throw them up on dropbox or whatever.

As for talks while preparing for war. There's not actually much to prepare with. One line down the clan chat to current people on and a msg to those who aren't. 2 Seconds, 3 if we're tired. Don't bring up sieges they go down as fast as a fly dies on sticky paper.

I'm glad you didn't spam with requests or sales. That much is appreciated. It was fun. Even when we had blockers and at times just had to walk away a bit. Gang ups happen on both sides. Whether it be you and the 600+ sword and the archer timeconsum (neat dude btw). It's just the nature of the beast. I'm good with that.

I don't really have much to say on the personal issues side of things. But I agree with you on that.

Also at the end of the day it is a game. It's a fun one. War happens. Peace happens. Roll with one or the other or both. Roll with whatever happens. Call it a day, grab a drink, unwind, have a bit of fun and the game serves it's purpose.

I'm pretty sure I addressed most things in order and some out of order. If I haven't, I might edit.

See you on one of the clan maps dude. Happy warring.

Re: Link vs AD

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 1:01 am
by Dr DOOM
You all could just hold hands & get along?

Re: Link vs AD

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 12:45 pm
by Unit123
Dr DOOM wrote:You all could just hold hands & get along?
:lol:

Re: Link vs AD

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 12:57 pm
by Asmodeous
Dr DOOM wrote:You all could just hold hands & get along?
Lol.