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PvP is broken

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 7:41 pm
by MadMagus
FT Account name: MadMagus
Time of bug: within the last 15 minutes
Where: in PvP
What: I was attacked while grinding by a clanned player 3 levels higher than me. He had spell resistant gear, sieges for spell blocking, definitely abused the hp regen bug, and maybe attempted to abuse the outlaw bug as well.
Why: With this much stacked against me, it was obvious I could not win in any case, with such bug abuse going on. He could have been half my level and achieved a similar result. My only saving grace was that my stats were set well enough that I could easily log off if needed.
Other comments: Eventually, he got bored when I refused to fight back anymore. He walked away, as it was a stalemate because I would not waste my mana. However, until these issues are addressed, all players should be given the option to opt out of PvP (free of charge).

Re: PvP is broken

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 8:28 pm
by Ryaca
I also support this idea. Opting out would be more than fair until these issues are worked out.
By the way, I cannot even begin to express my frustration with players that use seiges as shields. It's best that I don't even go there.

I am sorry you were attacked. I am glad that you witnessed the regen bug tho.

If any GM or Admin is reading this and you want to know how it is done, I can send you a pm.
I'm pretty certain that I know how it is done.
May require testing.

Re: PvP is broken

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:46 am
by Cashew
I had a similar scenario (witnessed by you actually) a little while back.

What I found funny was the person also got mad when once I "caught on" to their tactics, I did the same thing just stopped when they did, they recovered hp I recovered mana.

I ain't gonna waste my mana, don't be getting mad cuz you can't kill me cuz I see through the "trick" you're using to make me waste it then be defenseless.

I think both of em got mad cuz we didn't fall for it, whilst we might not be able to kill them at least it'll just end in stalemate atm.

Re: PvP is broken

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:22 am
by ardesia
Ryaca wrote:If any GM or Admin is reading this and you want to know how it is done, I can send you a pm.
I'm pretty certain that I know how it is done.
May require testing.
Of course we are interested. You can send me a PM with details :)

Re: PvP is broken

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:47 pm
by rearrow
yes. pvp is broken. it has been for 4years.
And it broke for real when people were allowed to buy unlimited lvls.
you might be able to log out to survive, but that wont work against 5k+ accounts. ft is pay to win, abuse bug to win and if you are not rich or honest you will die a lot and drop your gear a lot.

i believe its a concious decision, the lvl buyers and bullies pay the bills.
power corrupts is very true in ft.

pvp protection should be free and gear drop chance should depend on power difference or pvp record.
people who abuse bugs repeatedly should be punished for real (major lvl reduction on all accounts for instance) instead of one account jailed a bid. after and during which they continue the same way.

but these things have been said for 4years+ and things only got worse.

so u just accept to die and drop if you unlucky enough to be honest.

Re: PvP is broken

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:05 pm
by MadMagus
rearrow wrote:yes. pvp is broken. it has been for 4years.
And it broke for real when people were allowed to buy unlimited lvls.
you might be able to log out to survive, but that wont work against 5k+ accounts. ft is pay to win, abuse bug to win and if you are not rich or honest you will die a lot and drop your gear a lot.
I can agree with this. But I work within the system, so that 5k+ accounts and the like can't attack me.
rearrow wrote: power corrupts is very true in ft.
yeah I see it constantly :lol:
those levels can go to a player's head, easily
It's not a new concept - you've been around long enough, you can remember the original ones ;)
rearrow wrote: pvp protection should be free and gear drop chance should depend on power difference or pvp record.
meh, I don't think PvP protection will ever happen like that; I've been asking for it since early 2014
But the drop chance idea... hey that's good, you should post that in suggestions
I do know, the drop chance was reduced earlier this year
rearrow wrote: people who abuse bugs repeatedly should be punished for real (major lvl reduction on all accounts for instance) instead of one account jailed a bid. after and during which they continue the same way.
punishments along these lines are decided by admins
I will tell you though, there are multiple accounts with k's of paid levels in permanent jail
A note to those with excessive paid levels
(I'm specifically thinking of one who thinks it's so simple to get his levels transferred)
IF you repeatedly abuse bugs, and you get perm jailed
it is also quite possible admins will only give you some of your paid levels (like a percentage)
it is also possible they will deny you completely
something to think about: your "thousands of dollars spent" do not put you above the rules
and there is no rule saying you get to keep your levels no matter what
(you can also read the Google Play TOS if you like)
rearrow wrote: so u just accept to die and drop if you unlucky enough to be honest.
This is the saddest fact of them all.
The honest players always get the short end of the stick.
Think about it.
All the great (and free) features we had at one time, all the new rules, are all a direct result of some clowns who will just try to do anything to "win".
Personally, I measure my "wins" completely differently.
I have no need to "compensate" for things ;)

Re: PvP is broken

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 7:27 pm
by Ryaca
Mad, do you know what the drop rate % was changed to earlier this year?

I remember that it was 30%.

Would really like to know what it is now.

Re: PvP is broken

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:18 pm
by MadMagus
Ryaca wrote:Mad, do you know what the drop rate % was changed to earlier this year?

I remember that it was 30%.

Would really like to know what it is now.
I think it was reduced to 30, used to be 40 or higher

Re: PvP is broken

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:26 pm
by Ryaca
OK ty.