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A possibly permanent goodbye.
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:00 am
by NightBaby
Due to continuous harassment and not enjoying FT, I won't be fully playing for a while.
~ Maybe I'll simply fish. Maybe this is my last day. I have school to focus on anyway, FT isn't what it was when I started playing a year ago. There are many terrible things I've been told and seen.
~ I've made friends and enemies in FT, who doesn't have enemies right..? I stand up for what I believe in, always have. Nothing anyone says or does will change how I think or what I believe.
I guess we'll see soon.
Re: A possibly permanent goodbye.
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:45 am
by ardesia
NightBaby wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:00 am
Due to continuous harassment and not enjoying FT, I won't be fully playing for a while.
If you have been harassed by someone in game, the GM staff would like to know about that.
In normal circumstances, at such a declaration I would start investigating on harassment even with just this thin hint.
Given the situation, I suspect you are in fact referring to what happened with
another player having been punished for rule 14 violation. If I am wrong, please report a GM about the harassment.
NightBaby wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:00 am
I stand up for what I believe in, always have. Nothing anyone says or does will change how I think or what I believe.
Again, in normal circumstances I would admire such a declaration.
Given the situation, let me wear the white beard of life experience and warn you: there is a subtle boundary between "being rightfully fighting against a hostile and evil world" and "being unable to realise one is wrong".
Mind it: I am not in any way stating you are actually wrong.
Take it as a general suggestion for everyone's life.
Why am I providing you this hint?
Our last conversation is such that I believe you
might get an advantage in considering it.
You wrote me that my opinion is stupid. I politely invited you reconsider your wording, hinting that the usage of "stupid" might be considered offensive. As a result you banned me from FaceBook. It is fine: I was going to ban you, so you spared me the work.
But as far as you are involved, the wolf has been named often enough and I am not going to spend a single minute investigating on anything you will ever hint about, unless solid evidence will be provided.
Re: A possibly permanent goodbye.
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:27 pm
by quickshot3
ardesia wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:45 am
NightBaby wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:00 am
Due to continuous harassment and not enjoying FT, I won't be fully playing for a while.
If you have been harassed by someone in game, the GM staff would like to know about that.
In normal circumstances, at such a declaration I would start investigating on harassment even with just this thin hint.
Given the situation, I suspect you are in fact referring to what happened with
another player having been punished for rule 14 violation. If I am wrong, please report a GM about the harassment.
NightBaby wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:00 am
I stand up for what I believe in, always have. Nothing anyone says or does will change how I think or what I believe.
Again, in normal circumstances I would admire such a declaration.
Given the situation, let me wear the white beard of life experience and warn you: there is a subtle boundary between "being rightfully fighting against a hostile and evil world" and "being unable to realise one is wrong".
Mind it: I am not in any way stating you are actually wrong.
Take it as a general suggestion for everyone's life.
Why am I providing you this hint?
Our last conversation is such that I believe you
might get an advantage in considering it.
You wrote me that my opinion is stupid. I politely invited you reconsider your wording, hinting that the usage of "stupid" might be considered offensive. As a result you banned me from FaceBook. It is fine: I was going to ban you, so you spared me the work.
But as far as you are involved, the wolf has been named often enough and I am not going to spend a single minute investigating on anything you will ever hint about, unless solid evidence will be provided.
So what you are saying is whatever she reports about someone using buggs etc in game you won't investigate it because you have a problem with her?
Did I understand correctly?
Re: A possibly permanent goodbye.
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:26 pm
by MadMikael
Learn to read.
She's referring to "the boy who cried wolf" kind of thing.
She also says she will not investigate on words alone, that she needs some kind of evidence.
She is not denying help.
She is just stipulating conditions that are actually standard.
Knowing a bit about the situation, I can't say I fault her decision either.
It is, her choice.
Re: A possibly permanent goodbye.
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:47 pm
by blitzcraig
quickshot3 wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:27 pm
So what you are saying is whatever she reports about someone using buggs etc in game you won't investigate it because you have a problem with her?
Did I understand correctly?
I don't often speak for others, but in this case I think it's clear enough that I feel comfortable doing so. In short, no, you did not understand that correctly. She clearly said that she will not investigate anything "hinted at" but that she would investigate anything provided "with evidence"
I know there are often communication difficulties in FT because of players having different native languages, and I hope I helped clear this one up
Re: A possibly permanent goodbye.
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:50 pm
by quickshot3
blitzcraig wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:47 pm
quickshot3 wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:27 pm
So what you are saying is whatever she reports about someone using buggs etc in game you won't investigate it because you have a problem with her?
Did I understand correctly?
I don't often speak for others, but in this case I think it's clear enough that I feel comfortable doing so. In short, no, you did not understand that correctly. She clearly said that she will not investigate anything "hinted at" but that she would investigate anything provided "with evidence"
I know there are often communication difficulties in FT because of players having different native languages, and I hope I helped clear this one up
Yup I thought was a miscommunication. I hope she changed her mind tho about leaving game
Re: A possibly permanent goodbye.
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:11 pm
by NightBaby
I had something to say, but this morning my connection dropped and it didn't save.
Also @MadMikael, "learn to read" would've offended me if I was in quickshot3's position. English is his second language, and he tries hard to perfect it.
Re: A possibly permanent goodbye.
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:29 pm
by MadMikael
NightBaby wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:11 pm
I had something to say, but this morning my connection dropped and it didn't save.
Also @MadMikael, "learn to read" would've offended me if I was in quickshot3's position. English is his second language, and he tries hard to perfect it.
You are right, I was a bit harsh there.
For that, I apologize. I should not have spoken so rashly; I hadn't considered languages, I just thought that a trend was continuing.
However, this does stem from a bit of rudeness coming the other way too.
Treat others how you would like them to treat you.
Re: A possibly permanent goodbye.
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:50 pm
by quickshot3
MadMikael wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:29 pm
NightBaby wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:11 pm
I had something to say, but this morning my connection dropped and it didn't save.
Also @MadMikael, "learn to read" would've offended me if I was in quickshot3's position. English is his second language, and he tries hard to perfect it.
You are right, I was a bit harsh there.
For that, I apologize. I should not have spoken so rashly; I hadn't considered languages, I just thought that a trend was continuing.
However, this does stem from a bit of rudeness coming the other way too.
Treat others how you would like them to treat you.
What do you mean treat others like u wanna be treated?
I basically asked a question and you throw this at me? ur choose of words is starting to feel personal and it's getting at me. I haven't said anything wrong to you , doesn't mean you get to say to me .
As a GM you have more strict of choose of words then I do because I'm a "Regular player " sure we have same rules but u supposed to be the one we look up to since you have more power than us. I took this as an offensive better not be repeated. appologiy accepted.
Re: A possibly permanent goodbye.
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:09 pm
by MadMikael
I'm human, I make mistakes, and I get angry.
I am sorry for what I said - and no, I won't go and edit it out or delete it. That may work for others on the forum, but it's not my style.
I leave my mistakes for others to see - and hopefully, learn from.
If you look through all my posts, you'll see, I do make mistakes sometimes. I don't hide it.
As for why I was angry, etc. a lot of that is public, and what isn't, I won't share.
I know I should act better, but who here hasn't gotten angry, and maybe, got a mute or something?
It happens - I just make sure I don't do it very often.
As always, if someone has a real issue, they can always report me to an administrator - they have green names on the forum.
That goes for any GM - you can report to an admin. Admins review our actions.
I've already got a little bit of a speaking to about it, but I'm not sure if there was a complaint or not.
You have that right, if you wish to pursue it.