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Hostile shopkeepers

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 10:42 pm
by Leone
Presently, there is only one measure in place to deter players from becoming outlaws; they become fair game to other players of all levels. Does this go far enough? Maybe...maybe not - a point for debate.

Over time, there have been a number of ideas proposed that attempt to make the outlaw status a more unpleasant experience and so this idea - on its own - is not particularly ground breaking. However, if added to other ideas then it may well be. It also adds to the role playing element of the game.

When an outlaw player purchases items from shops, the shopkeeper adds a percentage penalty (25%?)on top of the normal price to express his or her displeasure at dealing with such an unsavoury character. This percentage increases in accordance with the player's level. Of course, when a player reaches a certain level (100?) the shopkeeper has lost all patience, as the player is now experienced enough to know that their behaviour has consequences. At this level and above, all shopkeepers refuse to sell anything to the players concerned for the duration of the outlaw status.

Re: Hostile shopkeepers

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 11:58 pm
by kollex
The ide is nice on itself, but ... nothing stops outlaw owners from having law abiding alts...

Re: Hostile shopkeepers

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 12:31 am
by dragkardragcar
Kollex is right.

Re: Hostile shopkeepers

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 1:09 am
by Leone
Oh I agree entirely. It's absolutely not a deterrent in itself but it would be an annoyance as people would have to get alts or friends to buy for them. My thought is that it should be a small part of a greater punishment to outlaws. I think exploring this would add to the game's depth.

Re: Hostile shopkeepers

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 3:45 am
by blitzcraig
I actually really like some of this... keep it simple though imo... 10% penalty for purchase and Sale or similar ;)

Re: Hostile shopkeepers

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 5:01 am
by kollex
% = level.
4125 lvl = price * 42.25 )))

Re: Hostile shopkeepers

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 5:47 am
by Asmodeous
I can see that last post is specific to me. Outlaw stats has ended for me but only came about because of people spamming alts. None the less the idea is good

Re: Hostile shopkeepers

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 1:26 pm
by blitzcraig
that reminds me, I would (of course) only recommend anything even similar to this after the outlaw system is fixed (which I believe is coming very soon :) )

Re: Hostile shopkeepers

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 1:44 pm
by kollex
Asmodeous wrote:I can see that last post is specific to me.
Asmodeus = Isoril ?
Asmodeous wrote:Outlaw stats has ended for me but only came about because of people spamming alts.
I think I knew that. It wasn't personal, really - just the most extreme example I could think of :D

Re: Hostile shopkeepers

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 8:34 pm
by Leone
blitzcraig wrote:I actually really like some of this... keep it simple though imo... 10% penalty for purchase and Sale or similar ;)
Yep - the idea is certainly open for further debate...whether it be 10% increase, Kollex's idea or something we haven't thought of yet.