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WHINING WINS
Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 11:23 pm
by Sydhe
I just lvld mage to 100. I play fair, I gift, I heal, I defend others being mistreated, I do not pvp but will kill when unfairly attacked. Today I was in Blood Mummies and it was full of players ranging levels from 32 up to 130. I was told I couldn't play there as I was taking all the kills which is not true. Spawning was blocked, I was being bullied, 2 MODS were called. DaHobbit did nothing, AYC spawned 15 mummies for each lower level player. Let's just reinforce their childish behavior AYC!! DoomCookie lvl 128 was the ONLY player who asked all to leave me alone! My point is simply this: It appears being honest,thoughtful, helpful and caring of others is BAD,and whiney little children who stomp their feet and throw tantrums get rewarded. WHY, WAS I NOT DEFENDED BY MODS?? WHY WAS THIS CHILDISH BEHAVIOR ENCOURAGED?? I HAVE JUST AS MUCH A RIGHT TO BE THERE AS THEY DO!! SYDHE
Re: WHINING WINS
Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 11:29 pm
by Asmodeous
It seems fairly wrong on a whole. If their concerned about drops. Its whoevers done the most damage to that monster... and it wont be the 100 mage when spammed with 10 to 15 blood mummies. Not always anyway.
You shouldnt have been treated like that tbh. It aint right.
Re: WHINING WINS
Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 11:31 pm
by Sydhe
Thank You for your understanding and support. Sydhe
Re: WHINING WINS
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 9:29 am
by Racoon
G'day all
Anyone who thinks they own a map or thinks they have more right to be there, get over yourself. I'm with Sydhe, when I'm grinding all are welcome as I do not own this game. Everyone have fun and enjoy this great game we all participate in, equally
Cheers Racoon
Re: WHINING WINS
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 10:24 am
by Mike McGuire
Seen situation Many times. Mods just say "i was afk and didn't know it was happening" and they get away with it.
Re: WHINING WINS
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 11:03 am
by Curse
Mike McGuire wrote:Seen situation Many times. Mods just say "i was afk and didn't know it was happening" and they get away with it.
why not check logs?
Re: WHINING WINS
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 1:33 pm
by Piffl / El Majo
I want clarify some things. I'm taking this post to explain some general issues of the game. Maybe not the case here, but I still want to make clear that:
First: this is a mmo game. Means there are a lot of pleople playing at once. A mod never can get out players at request. I knows perfectly, sometimes is very annoying to play on a overcrowed map. And 133 (red mummies dungeon) have frecuently this problem. Sometimes, the best is change of spot. There are several very good places to grind. If a single place is overcrowed, I usually go to another map or change of account.
Second: on the other hand, the common sense and the basic rules of civility they say if you go to another map, and there already have a several players, if your presence block spawn or is causing troubles, you must go to another spot place. Is really a regrettable behaviour the arrive and block the spawn, to annoy the others and force they to leave the place. And too is not fair at all, if your level is highter, kill all the spawn for the same reason.
Third: moderators must intervene when the game rules are broken, but never at player request to send away other people. Everybody is able to enjoy the game. I dont knows all the circonstances on this case, so i am not judging nobody here. Simply I try to write some civic rules to have fun for everybody.
Finally: remember always we have playing kids and people who arent English native, and some times patience is the single advice that I can give. I repeat it: this is not a judgement post of this case, but a general suggestion post for everybody.

Re: WHINING WINS
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 8:12 pm
by Asmodeous
Yeah sometimes it is best to change map if its crowded or over crowded. But it doesnt mean a player should be made to feel bad over it or feel like some injustice is had. Theres a fine line between asking someone politely to leave and explaining the reasons and being a butt, telling them to leave and making a small scene out of it. In essence whining or complaining at the player.
On your second thing. Thats then a grey area because anyone could say someone else is causing trouble, whether it be an enemy clan whos showed up, realised your there and start attacking you. Spawn blocking to be rear end is never ok, sometimes its accidental other times its done on purpose.
Killing all the spawns for a malicious reasons also bad, but what if their there for a legitimate reason. Such as robe running for cash etc. Robe runs use to be a massive source of income for plenty of people. If this is indeed a form of ruling a lot of people can then point to this and say x player here is killing everything, hes being malicious and not letting us get anything... when actually they might have a legitimate reason such as farming for the clan. The others could even be exaggerating the situation a bit aswell. It can happen.
Could a mod step in when it appears theres slightly poor behaviour going on from one player to another? I know they warn players about language etc. But when common courtesy in a spot that their present in is being ignored could not both sides have a brief talking to. Each side explaining their view? Like a mediation of sorts. Of course easier said than done, but its just an idea.
Sometimes the non native english speaking population and whats said can come off differently to how its intended. It happens. Guess theres not much to be done there other than asking if things are ok and what the issue is.
This isnt critisism or anything. Its just that someone could possibly get the wrong idea then point over here... which would then make it a judgement call for the mod. Cant keep everyone happy but they sure do try to.
Since Sydhe feels this way, and feels this way enough to post it maybe something did happen that really did make him feel pretty bad about the whole situation and a calm talking to at somepoint about it could go a long way.
Even though clans butcher each other, fight, trash talk. A player still shouldnt have to feel like a horrid injustice has been done. Sure things can be a bit unfair at times. It happens. But being a complete rear end to someone just about their presence in a dungeon is a bit wrong if not accompanied by an explaination as to why they hinder the gaming experience and how their blocking spawns etc.
Re: WHINING WINS
Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 4:07 am
by Sydhe
Everyone has made a good point and i appreciate the support as well as the feedback. To simplify things, i was outright bullied. I did kill spawn when there were large amounts, i let mana regenerate while others killed. My point is i was falsely accused of taking ALL KILLS and not allowing anyone else to kill. In addition to that, the players forgot that it's not always about the kills so much as the hit. Yes, the kills give drops and xp however, the hits give xp too. I healed players and even tanked a little, as much as a Mage can anyway, but my point here is that i was playing nice, i was trying very hard to be fair. ALSO...Sydhe is a female...lol!
Re: WHINING WINS
Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 6:40 am
by uPgradE
Sydhe, I back you on this.. im lvl 400+ and havent grinded in a while.. I usually hit robes to hunt when needed.. but when I go there (library or center tower) there does seem to be a group/player that think they own the map..
I usually give lows there space,, fill up, give extras, get a few more and give to lowers and leave.
sorry you had a bad time.. but truth is, we all have dealt with it too..
Iv been ran out of all grind spots.. even war dogs at top center.. someone always thinks they own a spot.
And sadly, its usually a higher on an alt :/
My advice, find a spot.. get in where you fit in!
....and dont be punked!
Make friends.. and prove yourself to others that you arnt a punk!
And above all, remember, its just a game
Best of luck!
~Cage