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+2500HP/+3500HP Potion drawing..

Posted: Sun May 17, 2015 10:23 am
by DwarfTank
Anyone like?

The +1000HP potion seems to be irrelevant after lvl 150, so I bring this idea to the drawing board.

Re: +2500HP/+3500HP Potion drawing..

Posted: Sun May 17, 2015 11:38 am
by Insider
I like it ;)

Re: +2500HP/+3500HP Potion drawing..

Posted: Sun May 17, 2015 12:31 pm
by DwarfTank
Thanks, this took me quite a bit of time to draw, I broke my hand really bad when I was 18 (now 30) and have early arthritis from that injury.

Re: +2500HP/+3500HP Potion drawing..

Posted: Sun May 17, 2015 3:39 pm
by kollex
the stopping point about those potions is not pictures, but the concept itself. right now there are players abusing healing potions in pvp - running with 3 backpacks full of those. if we just introduce more powerful potions now, this scourge will extend itself to higher levels.
so, until some solution is made to limit the number of potions (say, a special potions belt with 5 or 10 of them), I hope no such powerful potions are introduced into the game

Re: +2500HP/+3500HP Potion drawing..

Posted: Sun May 17, 2015 5:29 pm
by DwarfTank
kollex wrote:the stopping point about those potions is not pictures, but the concept itself. right now there are players abusing healing potions in pvp - running with 3 backpacks full of those. if we just introduce more powerful potions now, this scourge will extend itself to higher levels.
so, until some solution is made to limit the number of potions (say, a special potions belt with 5 or 10 of them), I hope no such powerful potions are introduced into the game
You make a valid point, but if HP pots are limited to 5-10, then same should apply to Mana pots for mages as well.

I do agree with you though, as I could easily have 8 pages full of nothing but HP pots on my archer, as I still have all quests that require the escorting of npc's, and then of course could have nearly 20 pots in my character pack as well, so I could have nearly 160 pots all together if I choose to.

The problem is the current biggest HP pots only heal 1,000hp at my level of 189 having 38k hp, +1,000 hp pots are nearly useless.

We need bigger potions.

Re: +2500HP/+3500HP Potion drawing..

Posted: Sun May 17, 2015 5:35 pm
by blitzcraig
I think a better solution than higher "hard" numbers would be "percentage" hp potions.... one big problem with hp pots (even 1000) is that when a too- low level character has them, he gets too strong. for example, a level 20 full of 1000 hp pots will easily kill a 25 without them.... so if they were, say, 1% of max hp (as an example, this could easily prove way too high) it would not over power the level 20 guy, but would still help the level 500 guy, know what I mean?

or possibly even better, 5% with a max of 2000 or similar (again, look at the idea, not the actual numbers)

of course the simpler open is just to level-limit the pots, but that's not as cool imo ;)

Re: +2500HP/+3500HP Potion drawing..

Posted: Sun May 17, 2015 5:49 pm
by kollex
ah, i imagine the world with these 2 ideas combined - percentage potions and potion belt. then mages would have to choose whether to keep on themselves a mana boost or a safety net...

Re: +2500HP/+3500HP Potion drawing..

Posted: Sun May 17, 2015 5:55 pm
by DwarfTank
blitzcraig wrote:I think a better solution than higher "hard" numbers would be "percentage" hp potions.... one big problem with hp pots (even 1000) is that when a too- low level character has them, he gets too strong. for example, a level 20 full of 1000 hp pots will easily kill a 25 without them.... so if they were, say, 1% of max hp (as an example, this could easily prove way too high) it would not over power the level 20 guy, but would still help the level 500 guy, know what I mean?

or possibly even better, 5% with a max of 2000 or similar (again, look at the idea, not the actual numbers)

of course the simpler open is just to level-limit the pots, but that's not as cool imo ;)
I totally agree, except even a 1% of total max hp gain, could still be just as unfair, only with this side of the coin being in higher lvl player's favor.

As much as I hate lvl caps, it' really seems to be the only way to have stronger potions in this game.

Re: +2500HP/+3500HP Potion drawing..

Posted: Sun May 17, 2015 5:55 pm
by DwarfTank
I hope you at least like my design though :)

Re: +2500HP/+3500HP Potion drawing..

Posted: Sun May 17, 2015 6:21 pm
by blitzcraig
oh yeah, I missed both those lol - potion belt or similar is great (can't just throw them in bag, they'd break lol)

also, love the design ;)