So How Do You Refer To Others?

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So How Do You Refer To Others?

Post by Barkley » Mon May 03, 2021 9:00 pm

Just about every player in forgoten tails knows there are 2 sides. But would you refer to one of them as a hole?

Not to long ago there was a forum post by Seth saying that what they were referred to before needs to stop and is a violation of the rules.
But I get the point. Most people calld one side "Russian" but just about half seam to live in "Spain" or at least speak "Spanish". So "Spanish"? No thats disqualifying all not living in Spain...

Than the other side. Mostly referd to 2.2. While that's better it still doesn't fix the issue, what about the fellow -1.2 players left out? Some said "Americans" but that's again both false and also a violation of the rules.

You can't in all situations refer one side as "the enemy". What if someone asks "Who are the enemy's?". Here you say "Americans" or "Russians" or "Spanish" and you're back at the beginning and meanwhile broke the rules. While at the "American" topic evan that is a dispute. American is referred to people in well... America, but which America? The country or the continent (or 2 continents or which one of the continents)? What do you do if you don't like a person on your side? Calling them "enemy" makes it seam they are the opposite side but calling "ally" meaks it seam like it's your ally while in this situation it is not. So....that's a "Enemy Ally"? I think not.

Does anyone have any better ways to refer to it all?
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Re: So How Do You Refer To Others?

Post by Leone » Mon May 03, 2021 9:37 pm

Us and them?

Or, refer to players by their names or at least their clan names.

Anything that may be bordering on racism, stop, think about it and choose something else. It's not that difficult.
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Re: So How Do You Refer To Others?

Post by SellSword » Tue May 04, 2021 1:22 am

I'm always somewhat amused when people want to force a "two sides" system on everyone. Frankly, it astonishes me that people have a hard time picturing players who don't side with any group, but that could be because some people have an odd definition of what neutrality is.

To answer the question you could go with opponent. That isn't the same as enemy, and could even be a friend. You know, because individual people play the game.
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Re: So How Do You Refer To Others?

Post by Barkley » Tue May 04, 2021 6:24 pm

Leone wrote:
Mon May 03, 2021 9:37 pm
Us and them?

Or, refer to players by their names or at least their clan names.

Anything that may be bordering on racism, stop, think about it and choose something else. It's not that difficult.
Not making fun of you but do you think I can in the samll message I can send fit 100 people?
So cotne,Sapphira, Gutrot, crewz,rothost,Jenga,Stiche,Isoril, NightSahde,worf,maiden,steel arch,Phiso,Sipahi,omg8 and a ton of others did X...while I mean the whole side...or maybe just some of the side...

The fenix,ninja,Italy,Ichijo..... You get what I mean.. you simply just can't do it with that.
Clans? The DGL1,DGL2,LYR,MCNR,MRNR,MCR,ITA,lTA,ITAn,ITAc,RUS1,RUS2,RUS3,Ichi,GRUZ,KGB,Lev,Lev2,SLXO, D00M,Dom2.........And the other side...
No way you can pot that in a not silly sentence Evan if you disqualify multiple clans of the same person.


Us and them in my opinion fixes nothing. With us I may mean a smaller group of mabye 2 or 5 of the billions of others :lol:
With them... I may be talking about let's say 6 of "us" as the side but "them" as in I wasn't there... Or the opposite.. like "we had a fight", what you call "us" side could say "they had a fight" with both sides. That's also as confusing as before. What was "rus" baselcy noone cared till Seth said illegal. The other side never had a name I could ever refer to. I don't want it brake the rules but be able to refer to someone.

You understand what I mean? If you say it's not that hard than please come up with something everyone could agree on while it not being to display every person.

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Re: So How Do You Refer To Others?

Post by Barkley » Tue May 04, 2021 6:29 pm

SellSword wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 1:22 am
I'm always somewhat amused when people want to force a "two sides" system on everyone. Frankly, it astonishes me that people have a hard time picturing players who don't side with any group, but that could be because some people have an odd definition of what neutrality is.

To answer the question you could go with opponent. That isn't the same as enemy, and could even be a friend. You know, because individual people play the game.
Those Natural are well neutral. No other way to refer to them. And the Neutral side doesn't exist. Simply natural people. That was never an issue I think.

But opponent still doesn't fit in many situations.

And I agree, 2 side system is not the best. For a time I considered 3 sides. Dispute, dispute and 3.-3.... but that's just a caos, only a few natural (like 3?) and the rest totaly is not picking any sides, totlay not. But calling natural independent isn't right either. They ally who is on their map. No matter who.... most of the time.
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Re: So How Do You Refer To Others?

Post by DerKing » Tue May 04, 2021 6:48 pm

You could meet up with the leaders of big known clan alliances and make up some cool names.
I mean, we already have for example russians in real life so that is boring. Change it to "Followers of the holy cheese" of something.
If that doesn't work i think enemy is just fine, although friend would be better.
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Re: So How Do You Refer To Others?

Post by justj99 » Tue May 04, 2021 7:07 pm

That's a good idea. Give yourselves nicknames if you want. You're "enemies" in a game, not in real life. Talk to each other here and come up with a solution! :)
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