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Re: Rule with spam buildings not correct.

Post by ryaca_ » Tue Apr 23, 2019 11:15 pm

Mr_Maks wrote:
Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:40 pm
Yes that's right and will be good if it will specifically stated in the rule itself.
i will discuss this with the gm team
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Re: Rule with spam buildings not correct.

Post by Lestat » Sun Jun 09, 2019 6:00 pm

Once again I believe this rule is junk...spam builds(whether defend or attack) should be banned period. Rebuilding(replacement) of destroyed builds should be allowed,as long as trying to build. But when the ability to build on multiple maps was taken away..this took 'spam builds' from attackers. So attackers can't use builds as warfare unless making spam clans..the ability of defending clan to fill an area of unbuilt crap to block is at best just a slowing of the inevitable..

I was told 3-4 years ago by GANDALF ..there is no spam in warzone..if this is case..then attackers should b allowed the same luxury as defenders.. not only defender can spam.. and no just because u have a base on map X, doesn't mean u can go elsewhere on map X and place a tower and call it part of your base..the rule clearly states u can build in your base area..anything outside your base can be considered spam.

War is war..either we allow the wars to unfold as they will and let people be people..or we made a standard set of rules defined for war for all to follow..not have vague rules that each GM can endorse as they deem necessary..and when GM have been noted as saying. ' when I get GM I'm going after the ********** side..that shows favoritism..I won't mention the name(s) but I'm sure I'm not the only one that saw that convo at spawn...

So at best we have some GM doing good for all, a few GM doing the best to protect their friends, and some GM that just abuse their power. Until our GMs are neutral the game will never balance out.

This is my opinion.those that feel the same(no matter your 'side'((I chose no side but my own)) can feel free to support..those that oppose feel free to comment, I've played this game from beta(although I lost my email I started with) it seems we make progress for a bit just to rewind back and have to redo..let's all try to make it better..both sides can agree on this.

Remember the game can be as good or as bad as we make it.. ultimately the players control the outcome of the game..if we run off our GMs(fair or not) then the game becomes a free for all with no structure. I think we should support our GMs but also need to be able to say something when we feel like GMs are being unfair without fear of jail.. criticism is how we become better, being a GM comes with stress but when GMs aren't impartial the players should be able to complain without threats of jail or ban. Since not all nationalities are supported by a GM of their own,the ones we have MUST BE IMPARTIAL, otherwise not everyone gets represented.

On a last note...to be fair to all I think a list of jailed,banned accounts should be made. It should contain the character name,the date of report,date of punishment, reason they were punished..this way people can have a list to see when and why they got punished and others have a way to see what is punishable..this will also cut down on rule interpretation..it can be checked to see how issues have been dealt with before and can have same punishment for anyone doing it again..and of course multiple violations by one person(not by account,but by player) should be dealt with harsher. Player A with 30 accounts shouldn't have 30 chances to break a rule while Player B with one account gets one chance..if a rule is broke with a player on one account,if another account does it too..that's their second offence..can't treat it as a first because it's a different name.
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Re: Rule with spam buildings not correct.

Post by ryaca_ » Sun Jun 09, 2019 8:46 pm

there will never be a public list of jailed or banned accounts ever from this day forward. we have enough work to do.

and no gm team will ever make all players happy. if we did make everyone happy then we wouldn't be doing our jobs.

if there are impartial gms as you say or gms that "just abuse their power" you are more than welcome to report them to compbatant or Lord Seth. make sure you bring evidence with those claims. hearsay is a helluva drug. it's all good tho, we gms never get credit for all of the work we do. comes with the territory. complaints and nagging start loud and turn into a dull drone eventually. it's a thank less job.

there will never be a solution to clan drama. ever. period.

but beating dead horses is a thing.
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Re: Rule with spam buildings not correct.

Post by Lestat » Sun Jun 09, 2019 9:23 pm

Ok ry.. this is my reply..if GMs don't give us some record of jailed,banned accts and why they were punished, how are the game players to know GM doing their job correctly ? There is a need for some sort of check and balance..otherwise there is no way to know if players are treated equally..

I never said GM job was to make players happy .to be honest.if you are making players happy, your not doing your job correctly..GM job is basically to police..and no one likes police . So if your making people on one side happy(which lately punishments seem one sided) your either favoring one side or just ignoring the fact that the side u prefer is doing the same things.

And clan drama should stay that..clan drama..like I said in earlier post, either give standard rules of warfare or leave clan warfare be just that..a war..there is no true fairness in war..no matter the side or who u prefer to win..since clan and non clan have different objectives in game,then clan rules should differ from non clan..this is easier than trying to define one rule for two completely different roles in game..a non clan player can be harrassed,but a clan tag allows for harassment because of the 'clan' ability to kill other clans..even if it means u have another clan higher level following you around just to kill you..(again a lesson I learned from GANDALF).

Last thing ry..my post wasn't aimed at any one person or group, yet you seemed to attack my post..feeling of resentment or was I too close to truth that you felt the need to defend the wrongdoings?

* My use of you/your is for preposition use, meaning it's not directed at ry specifically.
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Re: Rule with spam buildings not correct.

Post by ryaca_ » Sun Jun 09, 2019 11:41 pm

i was just clarifying a few things.

in clan drama there is never any happy parties. i will personally not waste any of my time publishing any list of jailed or banned players. is easy for you to recommend more work for us but you don't have to do any of the work. you posted your opinions but that is all that you have done. no more work is required of you after that. you can go on with your life and you feel satisfied. i however do not.

all those ideas sound nice here in the forums but that is where they will stay. i personally won't waste any time on these ideas.

you stated that you had a conversation at spawn with someone who claimed they were going to do whatever. so your post was aimed at someone.

let me be the first to tell you that there is no gm that is going to spearhead any type of crusade to make clan life fair and balanced. compbatant is the only person that can do that so talk to him. clan drama does not take priority over the work that we already do. if there is rule violations then they will have to get in line and wait like every one else does. investigations are long and take time and rarely does anything get solved immediately.

95% of the reports We get on clan cheaters clan spamming are lies. plain and simple. these false reports and accusations take up so much of our time. many players listen to their friends that use hearsay as facts. that type of logic is flawed. and those players are convinced that what they tell us is true. they are wrong.

we have to catch ppl in the act. we do not rely on ppls words. so many times i get a complaint and go check on the player and they are doing nothing wrong. this pisses me off so yes I'm going to speak up in threads like this.

even tho it pisses me off tho i have to deal with these false reports nonetheless as it is what i signed up for and i knew this when i volunteered. every job has its good and bad points.

clan life will not change. either accept this or don't. compbatant is the only personthat can change game mechanics.

personally i think on the issue of spam building that rule needs to be removed. compbatant could also implement many things in the game to stop spamming from happening. maybe one day he will.

there is no gm favoritism towards any specific individual or group. that is ridiculous. why would we do this? what would our motivation be?

many players when dealing with clan drama let their emotions get the better of them and demand that we take action and shame us in the forums. they are not a priority to me.

i don't care about clans. i am stating this as a gm. i will help if a player reports a rule violation but I'm not going to drop everything so i can rush to a clan map and save the day like a hero. i am not a hero. i have hurt way too many ppl in my life to be a hero.

i will stay here and try to keep ft running but do not expect miracles.

i will stay

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Re: Rule with spam buildings not correct.

Post by ryaca_ » Sun Jun 09, 2019 11:42 pm

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Re: Rule with spam buildings not correct.

Post by cotne7 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:28 pm

Maksimm unfortunetly u were doing same at underground long time ago!it was the one of the reason u guys won that war..
I can see that maskimm is good clever and kind person but unfortunetly ur very unfair..
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Re: Rule with spam buildings not correct.

Post by Mr_Maks » Tue Jun 11, 2019 10:07 pm

Since you wanted to recall this,your team used Mike and Tommy accounts 7k and 9k level with shared 24/7 when higher level without donate was 3k and you anyway ,could not win.
In the meantime, as a rule with spam buildings did not even exist at that time, and it’s not necessary to say that you didn’t use spam at that time either...
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Re: Rule with spam buildings not correct.

Post by cotne7 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 10:35 pm

Maks i m not saying that i have not abused any bug.i can say that i had acces to alot accs and broke some little rusles!but i m not reporting them when other is doing same..but your reporting same thing what u were doing earlier!now u dont like that someone is using same bug against you!
And i m just saying!if GM team will do anything about this report i will consider that gm is unfair becouse nothing was done that time when russians were doing same!and nothing must not heppen now too!
And makismm dont talk about high lvl accounts!!you all were using outo clicker 24 hours and got stronger!!
I can say that nothing is fairfull in this game!
And GMs team plz dont take my words as bad!i m not blaming anyone!i like mew GM team and you guys are working great!you guys are doing your max!
I m just thinking...what am i winning by playing without rules breaking?but he is winning alot who ever breaks..
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Re: Rule with spam buildings not correct.

Post by Mr_Maks » Tue Jun 11, 2019 10:58 pm

At that time, your party also used spam to block our exit and did it repeatedly.
You can slander as much as you want,but you have no single proof.You all just can talk a lot...

Personally, I cease to leave comments here because this topic turns into a too hostile form.And I see no reason to argue with you about something after what you wrote in the game chat.This is just an empty talk.
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