Trade Assistance - Report Scammers & Cheaters

[rearrow]

some of us only got one phone, no pc or tablet.
the fact that you can afford a second phone doesnt mean others can. and dont say its only x???. that depends on your country and might still be a monthly wage.

btw in the past he wouldnt have to report as scam because he could msg the player. but now we can only msg friends or clanmembers.
An unforseen consequence of that change.

[LostKnight]

I craft for saders. First time I made a couple of items, second time all failed.

He told me about this happening. I used what few Ingots I had left and made him two, and I'll get more ingots and try again.
I hate cheaters and hearing about people being cheated ... self included. But it doesn't stop me from helping others if I know them.

One must consider, not all people have access to two phones or devices so they must trust someone. I have acted as a "transfer point" many times for friends, and would do so for saders without question.

[death911]

Yea its true. Most of players can't afford 2 phone. I also at first had one phone. But the thing is for transfer items they will definitely need another players help. So why not ask any friend on whom they have trust? Why they ask any unknown person and if by chance any thing goes wrong in trade. BAM report in scammers and cheaters.. without even thinking that it might be some problem on the part of other players.. this is the return a player will get if he tries to help then why any player will come to help others..
The other day i also read a report of a player reporting Isoril for scamming 750 wand. Oh please just look at Isoril's level. Why would he need a 750 wand in first place? A player who has bought so many levels why he need to scam for 750 wand?

The thing is most people are not thinking before posting here about scammers. They just assume that they have been scammed and report here with player's name. In turn the player's reputation gets damaged..
They should instead PM to GM in any case. Only those who are confirmed scammers and cheaters , their name should be published in the thread..

Lol long back i was selling pets and skin .. before the new trading system existed.. that time we had to type in the name of the player and put a bad password and buy the item. When the player would log in he would get the item..
A player begged me to buy him skin in exchange of in game gold.. after his repeated begging i bought him skin by typing his name. When he logged in he did not get skin (some times this happens , delay in getting item sometimes occur) , then he started saying that i scammed him... lol how i scammed him?? I had not even taken his gold yet.. i just bought him skin.. so i explained him that some times delay happens in purchases maybe u will get it later. Or u can contact any GM for help.. u need not give me any gold. After u get skin then only give me gold.. but he wouldn't listen. He would only say that i scammed him. I said no need to pay any gold then..and i went away..
Later he got skin and when he found me he apologised. That was the last day i would buy any item for others. Lol i wouldn't want to be labelled a scammer for trying help anybody..

[Leone]

Good point, death. Players should really try out the new trading system with trusted friends with low cost items before trying for real with items they particularly want.

[MadMikael]

I would point out, this is a report thread, not a place for idle chat.
That said, as with the Isoril case, if the post is made publicly, it gives the accused a chance to tell their side of the story.
There is little chance if it's handled via PM.
If you see this player in game, perhaps you could refer him to this post.
Other than that, let's try to keep the chat down here please.

[Leon]

Player name: destruccio
clan: CP0

I was selling Crystal bracelet for 10m. After a talk we've decided that i will Sell it for 5m.
In trade tab after my confirmation with my crystal bracelet, he changed amount of gold to 500k.
I didnt noticed clicked on ok again and then he run away. I have asked him nicely for rest of gold, but nothing happened.

BR Leontynka

[Arashiko]

Player name: destruccio
clan: CP0

I was selling Crystal bracelet for 10m. After a talk we've decided that i will Sell it for 5m.
In trade tab after my confirmation with my crystal bracelet, he changed amount of gold to 500k.
I didnt noticed clicked on ok again and then he run away. I have asked him nicely for rest of gold, but nothing happened.

BR Leontynka

The difference between 5,000,000 and 500,000 is clear on the trade screen.

The new trade system requires you to click to confirm if any changes are made by either side.

If someone tries to pull a scam like you allege destruccio did, it's your responsibility to check the sale is the one you agreed to in chat *before* clicking confirmation.

Caveat Emptor implies Caveat Vendor.

Yes it sounds harsh, but the new trade system and having commas in the figures displayed goes a long way to preventing trade abuse. At the end of the day, players have to take some responsibility, rather than expect GM to fix every careless mistake the players make.

[Khmer]

Player name: destruccio
clan: CP0

I was selling Crystal bracelet for 10m. After a talk we've decided that i will Sell it for 5m.
In trade tab after my confirmation with my crystal bracelet, he changed amount of gold to 500k.
I didnt noticed clicked on ok again and then he run away. I have asked him nicely for rest of gold, but nothing happened.

BR Leontynka

The difference between 5,000,000 and 500,000 is clear on the trade screen.

The new trade system requires you to click to confirm if any changes are made by either side.

If someone tries to pull a scam like you allege destruccio did, it's your responsibility to check the sale is the one you agreed to in chat *before* clicking confirmation.

Caveat Emptor implies Caveat Vendor.

Yes it sounds harsh, but the new trade system and having commas in the figures displayed goes a long way to preventing trade abuse. At the end of the day, players have to take some responsibility, rather than expect GM to fix every careless mistake the players make.

Leone,4.5m, I suspect this is a matter of principal and not the money itself, if it is the latter, Khmer will give you the original 10m, no strings attached... Nice players are everywhere

[LostKnight]

Leone,4.5m, I suspect this is a matter of principal and not the money itself, if it is the latter, Khmer will give you the original 10m, no strings attached... Nice players are everywhere

KUDOS! to Khmer. Excellent gesture!

[ardesia]

Player name: destruccio
clan: CP0

I was selling Crystal bracelet for 10m. After a talk we've decided that i will Sell it for 5m.
In trade tab after my confirmation with my crystal bracelet, he changed amount of gold to 500k.
I didnt noticed clicked on ok again and then he run away. I have asked him nicely for rest of gold, but nothing happened.

BR Leontynka

The trade for 500k is confirmed by game data, as is the chat dealing to trade the bracelet for an amount of around 5m.
Has destruccio given you back the bracelet, or has he given you the missing money, Leon?
Please let me know if he has not fix the situation