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Barkley wrote: Fri May 17, 2024 6:43 pm
merisajan wrote: Fri May 17, 2024 6:40 pm All of us were great together, gM was also happy that he was progressing a lot, but unfortunately, bad things happened In the discussion forum between players and GMs, there are unnecessary discussions that should probably be kept private It ruined everything. The GMs left, they left us heartbroken and every day the game got colder. The relationship between the GMs and the players got worse. Please close the threads with unnecessary discussions so that it doesn't hurt the game more🌷🌸
You're missing the point.
These discussions are very much necessary as the game is on fire over them. And there is no rift between the players and the GM's here. There's a rift between the developers approach of doing as he wishes without listening to his team or the players.
Admin made the game He can do as he wants He has a GM and the communication between us and the admin is the GMs GMs are better at solving problems Because some problems should not be visible for everyone to see because the problem is not solved, it gets bigger and is created It is better to solve private problems There are clear rules Players should not comment to punish others it's wrong I have had this bitter experience and I made a mistake
because I did not know why the player was punished
It had nothing to do with me
I should not have interfered him
too Do not interfere in punishments
Let them solve the problems themselves
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1 more issue. Pls stop locking our posts. Everyone have right to post and say what he wants respecting forum rules.
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Ok meri, what happens when admin makes changes without GMs? I think you miss the point of my discussion.

I'm not advocating anyone's punishment. I'm referring to rules that were in place(much longer than new map) being thrown out. Those that followed those rules have been cheated, those punished over those rules were cheated.

Admin may have made the game, but he allowed the rule, until he was pushed, then he disregarded the rule for his own benefit. He rewarded some while causing pain in others.

What happens next time ? Perhaps this time, his decision favored you? What if next time you are one that feels the pain?
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Ayoub wrote: Fri May 17, 2024 7:20 pm 1 more issue. Pls stop locking our posts. Everyone have right to post and say what he wants respecting forum rules.
Definitely.
Stop locking and deleting stuff here and on discord, as long as it's in line with the rules.

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Sometimes players do very deliberately against the rules. They show positions and photos and a profession that is not real. And there are many confidential private things that criminals use to make everything look wrong. And all this must be solved privately The admin himself knows that many players have been hurt by Tiger He knows
If he released him regardless of the GMs
He must have explained it to the GMs
we should not perform in punishments Because we don't know everything So let the GMs solve it if we are sure of these trust them
We saw that Galbatros wrote that everything is fine between them and there is no problem between the GMs and the admin. So there is no injustice It's just a misunderstanding that will definitely be resolved🌹🌷
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Meri, you are very kind and wish well.
You should know that things aren't all happy everywhere. There are bad things not from just one side, not from just player's.

When players make mistakes we are jailed. When "the admin" does that he gets more money. It is not just.

You say that we should not have to do with this, as we do not know everything.
Do you? Do you know enough to say that your post is right?
For example, this admin, is not an admin. Akkilles is an admin, but he didn't make the game. He is not incharge.

You don't understand the situation, and you go out commenting in some way, which really makes an uncomfortable situation for everyone involved.
You want to do good, but so does everyone in this topic.

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How much did GM explain that everything will be resolved soon and just be patient? Do you trust GM?
If you have, just let the problem be solved You don't want the problem to be solved, you just make topics and repeat words and only tired GM There was a new plan and a previous warning Everything is so clear and transparent Map with dangerous monsters Now will you let us enjoy this or not? New map with dangerous monsters for Pet
let us enjoy 😊🌸
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Lol meri, we aren't discussing anyone's punishment. We aren't taking from your new map. This is what you see and hear, thru fogged lens. You are looking at it as my friend was unjustly jailed and is now released. Which is now the way it is. I never went against this thought.

My thought is this: these rules were on the books for a long period of time. If they shouldn't have been there, comp should have removed it upon being released. If it had been a player from your opposition, you would be here saying unfair. I haven't said anything was unfair. I'm saying both sides have been hurt by this.

Comp allowing rules and changing them as he feels, leaves no structure. Those that called the rules unfair were jailed causing them pain. Those that followed the rules, seeing them changed and players released were caused pain. Noone won here.

Next time, it may be your opposition that benefits. When it does, then remember what you said, they can do what they want. Don't complain.
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I only want to say 2 things

1. Stop counting other people's money and trying to perceive the gameplay as a cash flow. This is the stupidest idea to try to blame Mateusz for allegedly making special efforts to make you leave more money in the game. Such shenanigans sound childish. Players are obviously not stupid and do not sleep on bags of money in order to constantly fail and at the same time never stop spending money. And it’s obvious that this is not an ordinary job with a fixed income, the flow of donations is always unstable, has a lot of pitfalls due to regional prices and application stores rules and depends on a huge number of factors, so it’s absurd to judge that Mateusz will suddenly get rich now

2. To be honest, it is unlikely that you will be able to persuade Mateusz to cancel the actions that he obviously took under someone else’s pressure. But even if you succeed, things can get even worse, and at most you will simply return to the starting point. I'm not forcing anyone to accept my next offer and I obviously know less about what's going on because I don't know the players, but I would suggest accepting the current situation this time and focusing better on the new rules. The rules will in any case be approved directly by Mateusz, which means that the GMs and Mateusz will have to discuss everything and come to a common decision and create a starting point for a new order in the game. And I hope that everything will be successful and everyone will be satisfied

And I think that bad players who are released from prison will most likely soon return "home" due to new violations of the rules, if they are really bad people
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Lestat wrote: Fri May 17, 2024 8:18 pm Lol meri, we aren't discussing anyone's punishment. We aren't taking from your new map. This is what you see and hear, thru fogged lens. You are looking at it as my friend was unjustly jailed and is now released. Which is now the way it is. I never went against this thought.

My thought is this: these rules were on the books for a long period of time. If they shouldn't have been there, comp should have removed it upon being released. If it had been a player from your opposition, you would be here saying unfair. I haven't said anything was unfair. I'm saying both sides have been hurt by this.

Comp allowing rules and changing them as he feels, leaves no structure. Those that called the rules unfair were jailed causing them pain. Those that followed the rules, seeing them changed and players released were caused pain. Noone won here.

Next time, it may be your opposition that benefits. When it does, then remember what you said, they can do what they want. Don't complain.
I have seen many times that the admin has always said that he is against the rules and jailing the players I don't remember where I could search and find it, but I saw it.
maybe 5yers ago last time
When the new clan map came out everything was supposed to be new and interesting and for high levels It was supposed to be a new experience for high level players and dangerous monsters It was never illegal in low-level clan maps, right?
Monsters are not dangerous either... right?
The new map had all these, low-level bans and dangerous monsters, and maybe a new experience is saving pets,
it's just a map like this.
Is it the same everywhere?
someone players stubbornly say that because it is like this here, it is the same everywhere else It is them who are stubborn, only the new map is like this
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