1500 castles over night

[rearrow]

in a a way it is kinda fair since i always argued that it wasnt realy fair to buy lots of lvls to kill castles.
just hate it that its puts uninvolved raw in danger like this.

Dino, we never had many members or high lvl 1000+ castles. instead we relied on diplomacy to protect ourself during the ad-link war. our highest castle is lv500, easily killed by either mage.

i understand now that a bug was exploited but it was unclear how much the dmg to link was translated to the new building system. , links castles returned now, whi h is fair. but it took the law team months to decide on what to do. the time it took to decide caused the problem now. unfo
rtunately danger to raw is colleteral damage.

[rearrow]

i totally agree with you, rearrow.
sadly, we had to do something wrong, this or that way. i hope, clans can figure it out.
worst case, we have to rethink our actions. but first, we hope for the living clan system in FT

we all learning and developing, players,mod, abmins and creator. lol.
I understand laws problems and admire what u guys do. would be a good job for paid professionals, but u are all parttime volunteers. many other great changes by creator today, which im sure mods and admins had a lot of time/efforts invested in too.

If i see something i think unfair , i comment on it.
If it effects raw my first instict is to lash out .

you might have noticed mother rearrow is a bit protective of her cub raw

[dinoponte2]

LOL i dont think that much fair raw and BK etc been building like months and now best castles of game appear from no where also one link guy toldme they got 24billions i dont think they lose that much

I like magix but cammon this dont sounds fair , couple guys quited game because that LAW action

[Asmodeous]

hi!
these 3 castles were restored due to their lost at a time close to xmas. sadly, it took WEEKS before we came to a conclusion and in future, the staff team will NOT do this kind of things anymore.
because, as you wrote and you are completely right... it confuses other players!

Ive never seen link with 1500 castles. Let alone those ones. Ive only ever seen them with a 654 tower castle tops. Im interested in seeing what was said in all honesty. Because link actually sold up. Seems like a game plan by some because i remember being on around christmas and just before. There wasnt any 1500.

Someones been played by the sounds of it. And probably kept the money from selling 10 out of 14 buildings. Great way to clan war. Sell your stuff in a huff. Magically get 3 buildings back just over twice the lvl of your old most powerful one.

Whats worse is probably the time it took to decide this. If it was a bug. Why did it take several months to decide? Especially now with the resource system? I honestly hope you can see exactly what it is thats been done, What this promotes.

[rearrow]

i suggest that details are posted on what lvl castles were lost due a bug being misused, where and when.
using forum post we can see at what stage of the war that was.
now there is the impression that it was a scam by link, especialky since they said to all they sold before they could be destroyed.
other think its an unjust action by law and quit ft because of it.

if this all happened before the war its a lot less serious. if it was during the war its more serious.

if it was in the period they got to remove gear from towers and sell them during which there was a ceasefire.... wrll then its prob a trick.

anyway . details are needed

[Asmodeous]

Exactly that. Because with everyone ive talked to they actually think its a scam. Clearly anyone can see why people are going to see this as unfair etc. In all honesty, I think its a scam and that LAW's been played.

[Trilix]

No cheat! No scam!
In December I got in touch with FT team to comply with the new buildings limit. A deal was done, and I was asked to wait until the new January update was released to sort all out. Unfortunately at that time AD declared war and start attacking our camp... If that was not the case, Link camp would still be there...
As Gandalf and Blitz already answered, any changes or decisions take time, and in this case, I was asked to wait until several factors were sorted before we could implement the changes.... Yes, it took almost 2 month, but if you look from my side, I had to wait that long...
In regards to gold, we don't have or ever had 24 billion, that's cheap talk, as logs can prove it.
In regards to gear, once war broke, we moved/sold all valuable gear, and our buildings only had resources (as anyone would do if they were attacked), contrary to Ahou and UWS1 that I lost a lot of valuable gear as the buildings were destroyed when I was not on.....(and as Ahou was destroyed, lots of good players decided to quit game...)
In regards to friends/alliances, today we're friends, tomorrow enemies, don't forget that Mike and Isoril were good friends before they turned on me.... I can say that I did not start any war involving Link, Ahou or UWS1.
When AD declared war, i asked help from many allies, and very few helped as everyone was concerned that AD would retaliate, so there's always the personal interest at play.....
I have clear conscience and nothing to hide. It was all done above board. The fact that it took 2 months is purely logistics as it takes time to discuss and agree on details, and, as mentioned above, FT team has loads of things going on, so anything a bit more complex as this obviously would take time to resolve...
What seems to be amazing is the amount of rumours and gossip that goes on.... and the cries of cheating and foul play that's directed to our clan...
BTW, the 'testing' I was doing was simply to chose the position of the buildings, at my own cost.

[Asmodeous]

Right so a "deal was done" to vomply with the building limit. Pretty much youve double dipped. Sold buildings. Got buildings higher than anyones had. 3 of them too. Even under the new resource system. I wouldve quoted bits of your post. But overall its pretty bad.

Extremely dissapointed in the staff for making this descision. Youve opened the door for all sorts of dealings now. I expect to be told that this wont happen again. But as to if it would or not. I reckon it will.

[Asmodeous]

It also puts raw and me as Duke specially in a very hard position. If I tell Isoril not to destroy these castles , I tell him not to finish what he started and bought all these lvls for ( and hes a good friend, also dont want loose him for raw). If I tell Isoril to go ahead and destroy these towers , I make Magix, the second highest lvl player and also a friend, my enemy.
For Isoril its even more difficult since he knows this and has to make the decision on what to do.

Simple, Isoril can kill the towers and castles "after death," his origins!

No point fairy. This is a clan wars breaker afaic. Its a hollow victory anyway. Having people talk behind ones back about this knowing its wrong is good enough anyway lol.

[rearrow]

ok. but this raises several other questions.

1) we have been told by law it was because if a bug exploited by your enemies.
you are saying it was a deal u made with law regarding the building limit.
that doesnt seem to be the same.

2) what type of deal was that?
if u agreed to reduce the number of link buildings. it is strange that instead of vulnarable lv600-1000 towers which a dedicated team could destroy, u got back highest hp castles at a lvl impossible to destroy. and the same day u got them they multiplied hp by 10.
In fact u have been given a free base for link impossible for others to destroy even if they spend $10000. this is a very unfair advantage for link.
dont forget that the towers you agreed gave up were bought. not build. if u had build them it would be a bit different.

3) the fact there was a deal is a bit strange too.
I vividly remember the crys of link when autofire stopped. it became worse with the new building system. all the time many suggested that link voluntarily reduced the amount of buildings to create a fair playing field. it still woyld have had the highest lvl buildings left. but link refused and just continued telling us rhey wanted their whole compound/ map back.
btw by xmas no other clan had more buildings than the limit. those who had sold them or tgey got destroyed. all these clans tried building and most succeeded. libk never even tried. now we know why.

i would like to know the details of this deal, since this type of deal DOES sound like a trick/scam to me.

raw has been neutral a long time in link-ad (godz) war abd we always knew a big clash would come.