GMs don't do their job

As the description says!

Moderator: Game Administrators

User avatar
Arachnia
Posts: 895
Joined: Fri Feb 28, 2014 1:31 pm
Location: Bavaria

Re: GMs don't do their job

Post by Arachnia »

All GM work on a voluntary basis. Please do not forget this when ranting towards the staff team.

Beside of this, your reasoning is generally acceptable. Actions were taken against abusers in the past and will be taken in future.
Retired Game Admin (GM)
For contact with staff, please send a PM to GM Inbox

Useful Links:
- Forum Rules | Game Rules
- Game Help | Monster list | Item list
Asmodeous
Posts: 724
Joined: Mon Aug 04, 2014 4:56 pm

Re: GMs don't do their job

Post by Asmodeous »

Arachnia wrote:All GM work on a voluntary basis. Please do not forget this when ranting towards the staff team.

Beside of this, your reasoning is generally acceptable. Actions were taken against abusers in the past and will be taken in future.
I'd have to disagree in calling it a rant. It was more or less observations on whats happened before and the outcomes. Also a bit a hindsight with whats happened to others.

I understand that it is voluntary work. Ive always understood this, we all have lives to lead and what not and those who do GM regularly Im thankful for.

However.

Yes actions have been taken against abusers and breakers of more serious rules. But the question is. Has it been effective? And my own answer to that is "not entirely".

My reasoning for this is because the same set of people are still doing this. The same set of people who have invested into the game are still walking all over the rules. At one point one of these players went as far as to extort others for levels. Now Im pretty sure even though its not in the game rules "thou shall not extort" that it would be a hindering experience for that person.

From observations the person was jailed for a very brief time. That same player has copeous amounts of other violations raked up in their name aswell. So was the punishment effective? No. Not in the slightest. Their also muted. Some wear their muting as a badge. "Your a noob until youve been muted at least once"

Others say the same thing about jailings. The problem is some people remain in jail while others do not and im willing to bet a few imaginary dollars that if a paid-for-toon and a f2p toon were in jail for the same crime that the PFT has a lot higher chances of being released. Because money.

At least thats how it comes across. Its not a slam or a rant at staff. Its just one player pointing out a common fact. That punishments aren't that effective. Because there isn't a long lasting effect on them. For a PFT (incase anyone skimmed. Paid For Toon) they are more likely not to care. Which appears to be the case with some. Since they appear less likely to get a ban than lets say someone whos F2P.

Theres already a caste system in play between PFT's and F2P. The blatent reason is that we PFT's hold a lot of ingame power because were absurd levels. Should we then not be held to a higher example with the rules in the sense that punishments should be harsher? To show we aren't exempt from these rules despite investment?

Because with that in play. At least it might help alleviate the tension seen between GM's the staff and the playerbase. Aswell as not give the hopeless feeling that if you do happen to report a PFT that something will be done over and above a token jail sentence.

In summary, I believe grievously high lvl PFT's have less to fear from breaking the rules than a F2P player. Punishments vary between the two sets of people. Some are permad while others shouldve been permad but arent. F2P players are more likely to receive a perma jailing than a PFT.
GOLGREN
Posts: 280
Joined: Wed Mar 19, 2014 7:34 pm

Re: GMs don't do their job

Post by GOLGREN »

GOLGREN EAT JAIL ONCE RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRR ! !!!
User avatar
DaHobbit
Posts: 563
Joined: Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:00 am
Location: Texas

Re: GMs don't do their job

Post by DaHobbit »

It is very difficult to catch everyone misbehaving. We may be in the game, but on another map, or even on that map but "afk" while messaging or on forum. For many reasons, many of which are obvious, we cannot be at the spot we may be needed at the moment we are needed - no matter how hard we may try.

Someone mentioned sending many, many screenshots. I don't recall seeing any of those, but I will usually act when presented with good evidence. It would really help if you could message me on here and give me some details, a screenshot, etc. Let me know who did what, and what they did, and on which map. If the offender is known to hang out on other maps (I think we all have our favorite places to go), let me know that too so I can easily find the offender.

We want everyone to have a great gaming experience, and we are trying to do as much as possible.
DaHobbit - Game Master (GM)
Asmodeous
Posts: 724
Joined: Mon Aug 04, 2014 4:56 pm

Re: GMs don't do their job

Post by Asmodeous »

It was me. It was over 100 and i gave a dropbox link to them in their original form aswell as zipped
User avatar
DaHobbit
Posts: 563
Joined: Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:00 am
Location: Texas

Re: GMs don't do their job

Post by DaHobbit »

I believe that is right. I kinda remember the dropbox link, but because of my situation, I was not able to see the pictures so the screenshots are not in my memory. But I do remember having conversations with the GM team, and thought we handled the situation. My memory might not be exact on that though. If we did not, I apologize. Still, we will do everything possible, as quickly as possible, whenever possible. :)
DaHobbit - Game Master (GM)
Post Reply