Unclanned and leaving clan

[Ryaca]

I have witnessed some behavior from certain individuals. They attack and bring unclanned players with them to stun me so that my fellow clan members cannot attack them because they are unclanned. They spam stuns at me until i have used all of my unfreeze and since there is 2 or three of them, I am helpless to do anything but stand there because they have full packs of stuns. I understand that this is an allowed and tactical behavior and part of the game mechanics, but this seems a little unfair. they bring 250 stuns and because my pack won't hold that many unfreeze, I have no chance. I suggest that this is a bit unbalanced. Then, later when I see the player that attacked me(the one that was in a clan) out grinding in the FT world, he is unclanned so I cannot attack him. That's pretty questionable. He can sneak up on me while I am grinding unaware that an attack is imminent but I cannot return the favor? I suggest that unclanned players should not be able to pvp. I also suggest that if a player leaves their clan, they should not be able to join a clan again for 7 days. And I also suggest that something be done about the stun issue. I shouldn't have to just stand there with no hope of being able to strike back because 2 or 3 unclanned players are spamming stuns at me knowing that there is no way that I could carry that many unfreeze potions in my pack and then they don't have to worry about any retribution because they are unclanned.

P.S. I am not talking about on clan maps by the way. I'm talking about out in the FT world map. Just wanted to clarify that.

[madmaniacal1]

Stuns and the slow spell both qualify as attacks. I get the "xxxxx has attacked you" message every time they stun me or slow me. That means they attacked first. Blast them and move on.

[Ryaca]

I cannot attack because 3 of them are all Stunning me at same time and they continue to do so until my pack is out of unfreeze...sitting duck. There is no way to counter this as My pack will only hold 80 unfreeze.

[blitzcraig]

i know i sound like a broken record here, but I've long pushed for the following:

1> immediate outlaw when attack (outside clans, clan maps, colosseum, and friends) ... maybe 1- 6 hours

2> immediate outlaw when leave clan (1 - 3 days)

3> unfreeze also gives freeze immunity for like 3 seconds

4> [not sure if this already works this way] you can "waste" freeze weapons on frozen / immune target

[madmaniacal1]

I cannot attack because 3 of them are all Stunning me at same time and they continue to do so until my pack is out of unfreeze...sitting duck. There is no way to counter this as My pack will only hold 80 unfreeze.

Are you on your archer when they do this? I know your bow equals the range of stuns. Just blast them. If not, I apologize as I don't quite have all the details. Still, I agree with the idea of a non-clanned player not able to pvp.

[blitzcraig]

even if he's an archer, they just need to cycle out and step away for a second... he's got virtually no chance - however, if they became outlaw when they attacked (like they should :p) then his friends could help him instead of just watching him die like some ridiculous horror movie (plus the rest of the FT world would have a crack at them for a few hours)

[Arashiko]

+1 to automatic outlaw for a short period (10 minutes?) for an unprovoked attack on unclanned player (whether the attacker is in a clan or not).

+1 to automatic outlaw status for a short period (one week seems too long) after leaving clan voluntarily (but not if kicked out)

[blitzcraig]

Thanks for commenting

I'd say even if kicked, though that's not nearly as important as the other issues

oh, and I'd still want at least an hour or even half a day rather than 10 minutes, but again, the time frame is not the most important part lol

[Ryaca]

i know i sound like a broken record here, but I've long pushed for the following:

1> immediate outlaw when attack (outside clans, clan maps, colosseum, and friends) ... maybe 1- 6 hours

2> immediate outlaw when leave clan (1 - 3 days)

3> unfreeze also gives freeze immunity for like 3 seconds

4> [not sure if this already works this way] you can "waste" freeze weapons on frozen / immune target

Agree 100%

[Arashiko]

the time frame is not the most important part lol

Exactly. The key point is that nobody should be able to attack another player with impunity and without the victim being able to retaliate at all.