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[MadMikael]

Perhaps a "wishing well", where you throw gold into it, and maybe, something will happen....

[NightBaby]

+1 on wishing well.. I actually saw that topic earlier hehe. Would make a great quest.

[Khmer]

I guess there is a slightly tenuous link to gambling when you have a choice of placing different amounts of gold in the altar. Sometimes you get a gift and other times you are attacked.

Admittedly, this is by no means a casino but a precedent has *sort of* been set.

This is true, but it is thought to be used on sporadic occasions, while a casino would be meant to spend time in it even on regular basis.

Right, because video games don't increase addiction tendencies in real life

There are several differences between gambling and games (or playing games).
A huge one is that in gambling you do nothing but deciding to gamble, while in games you act on a decision-making and problem-solving situation, in which you have to plan your actions on short- and long-term tactical/strategical decisions.

There is no personal competences and capabilities ones has to use in gambling, and there's a lot in playing games. This difference is crucial.

Researches show that slot machines tend to reinforce and enhance addiction tendencies. There is no such result (as far as I know of) about videogames.

Addiction to gambling is a serious and raising issue in my country.
I boycott stores owning slot machines, and I'm not going to support them to be added in any game

Compulsive computer game playing, gambling, and risk taking can result from excessive craving of the dopamine pleasure, especially when people are depressed or do not have other sources of pleasurable experiences in their lives.

Both gaming and gambling are enjoyable activities for the masses, for an addictive personality however, a set of personality traits that make an individual more prone to develop addictions to drugs, alcohol or other habit-forming behaviors, they are identical and it's naive and/or hypocritical to think otherwise.

and BTW, although video gaming is far newer to society than gambling, there is a ton of research, articles and results to substantiate such

[blitzcraig]

I don't personally have any issues with any of this, and I agree that gaming and gambling can both clearly lead to problems for those with addiction issues... however, to say that they're identical is demonstrably false. Gaming can certainly lead to more gaming, and other social (or antisocial) actions which will form habits and can be detrimental to a person's well-being. However, to say that playing an rpg can just as likely lead to gambling as actual gambling does is simply not true... gambling is proven to lead to higher-stakes gambling for people with addiction issues at an insanely high rate, similar to how gaming can lead to a more intense gaming addiction - the chemical reactions in the brain are certainly similar (as they are with many forms of addiction) ... but the "cross-over" rate is virtually nonexistent (i.e. a gambler doesn't sit at a slot machine for 30 hours and suddenly feel the urge to go play an mmorpg unless they're already developing a gaming addiction as well, and vice-versa)

[hungry_wolf]

for what i know, there is already a sort of slot machine, the monk in 2k church that asks an item to try get another, but for sure probability is higher than a real slot machine.

[death911]

That's not a slot machine lol. I never been there but from what i heard it gives daily quests which is nothing close to gambling. U do quests. U may get rewarded

[Khmer]

I don't personally have any issues with any of this, and I agree that gaming and gambling can both clearly lead to problems for those with addiction issues... however, to say that they're identical is demonstrably false. Gaming can certainly lead to more gaming, and other social (or antisocial) actions which will form habits and can be detrimental to a person's well-being. However, to say that playing an rpg can just as likely lead to gambling as actual gambling does is simply not true... gambling is proven to lead to higher-stakes gambling for people with addiction issues at an insanely high rate, similar to how gaming can lead to a more intense gaming addiction - the chemical reactions in the brain are certainly similar (as they are with many forms of addiction) ... but the "cross-over" rate is virtually nonexistent (i.e. a gambler doesn't sit at a slot machine for 30 hours and suddenly feel the urge to go play an mmorpg unless they're already developing a gaming addiction as well, and vice-versa)

You're not seeing the forest for the trees!

[blitzcraig]

Congratulations! If you were going for cliché and vague, you nailed it

EDIT - but to go along with your expression... You now seem to be saying that the two forests are identical, even though they are made up of different species of trees?

Big picture - Ardesia expressed a concern with putting something into the game which could be a step toward forming a gambling addiction, then your response was that people can have gaming addictions too. I agree completely with you on that, but we mustn't confuse ourselves into thinking they are the same thing, know what I mean?

[Arashiko]

If you want to gamble, download a slots game from the app store.

FT is not about winning gold. Gold is useful to buy stuff so that one can advance in the game via quests and slaying monsters.

Also please remember that many children play FT. Having high stakes gambling in game would require a change in the game rating IMO.

I'm very sure compbatant would be opposed to this idea.

[death911]

Arashiko is right. I also not support gambling. Many children indeed play FT and that's inappropriate for them
. But just want to say one point that there are other things also in the game which is not appropriate for children at least in some countries. For example the prostitute quest in map 0,-1 , i think that's inappropriate for children. Especially for new players as it is close to start map. In our country prostitution is illegal. Another i think the tavern.the guy that say"one beer please. Here u are" Obviuosly liquor is illegal below 18 so that not appropriate for children.
All i am saying is maybe modification possible?
The prostitute at 0,-1 ask for food or something else instead of fun.
And the guy at tavern at least ask age before offering beer.