Level Requirments

[Humble_M]

Game Help lists the leveling formula as:

XP to gain level L is calculated with L^3 times 15 XP until you reach level 150.
From level 150, the XP increases by a linear rate and you need (50m XP + 650k times n) XP to reach level (100+n)

Yet, I know that other classes require far less experience to reach the same level as me (mage). As a mage, I need ~70M XP to go from level 181 to level 182. I was under the impression that ALL characters leveled at the same rate (nothing in Help indicates otherwise).

A friend, who is a swordsman, says they need 124100K to advance from L294 to L295. Throwing 124100K into the above formula and solving for N:
50000000 + 650000N = 124100000
650000N = 74100000
N = 114

Now, I know that the formula actually starts at L151, so based on the required XP, you'd think this person was leveling to L265 (151 + N where N is 114). This is 30 levels UNDER the actual level!

Now, when comparing to my leveling requirements:
50000000 + 650000N = 70150000
650000N = 20150000
N = 31
So, this works fine for me. L151 + N (where N is 31) is L182.

I can only conclude that one (or more) of the following are true based on these calculations:

1) There is a calculation bug
2) Different character classes advance at different formulas (and formulas are not publicly posted)
3) The formula changes again once a higher level is obtained (again, not included in public documentation) for some(?) or all(?) classes

As a mage, I already receive less extra HP with each level advancement (+20 each leveling, compared to +100 for Ogres, etc). Everyone says that mages are the "most powerful". Yet, that power comes from mana. And, given the leveling situation, mages are at a disadvantage since it takes longer for them to level (thus longer to acquire skill points to assign to mana).

Can someone please explain what's happening???

[blitzcraig]

hopefully a GM will confirm/refute the xp needed for sword and mage both at that level, just to be sure... for now, without getting in to the math (it's 120 am lol) I can say that all classes are supposed to level at the same rate - if that's not what's happening, then I'm sure it'll be addressed immediately. Also, a small piece of advice (take it or leave it of course) - don't bog down serious concerns like this one with all the added thoughts about how the mage is already at a disadvantage to level.... First, it's not true; second, even if it was, it detracts from your very thorough explanation of a perceived problem and possible bug - it'd be better to keep the focus there in my opinion

[blitzcraig]

ok, I'm awake anyway lol - here's what I see about the math.

"XP to gain level L is calculated with L^3 times 15 XP until you reach level 150.
From level 150, the XP increases by a linear rate and you need (50m XP + 650k times n) XP to reach level (100+n)."

it seems to me this is wrong - it should be:

XP to gain level L is calculated with L^3 times 15 XP until you reach level 150.
From level 150, the XP increases by a linear rate and you need (50m XP + 650k times n) XP to reach level (151+n).

Going with that idea - let's test a few examples:

I've got a 268 sword. so 269-151 = n = 118

118 x 650,000 + 50,000,000 = 126,700,000

this is exactly what I'm shown to need in game

[blitzcraig]

(not trying to spam, but it's too easy to mess up posts this big lol)

your mage = 182. so (183-151) x 650,000 + 50,000,000 = 70,800,00 ... good, sounds right with what you posted.

your friend is 294, so (295-151) x 650,000 + 50,000,000 = 143,600,000 - hmm... bad, you quoted your friend with a much lower number

I've got a 1391 mage, so (1392-151) x 650,000 + 50,000,000 = 856,650,000 - good, that's exactly what the game shows...

my guess is that either you've got bad info about your friend's account, or the account is bugged in some way... hope this helps

[Humble_M]

(not trying to spam, but it's too easy to mess up posts this big lol)

your mage = 182. so (183-151) x 650,000 + 50,000,000 = 70,800,00 ... good, sounds right with what you posted.

your friend is 294, so (295-151) x 650,000 + 50,000,000 = 143,600,000 - hmm... bad, you quoted your friend with a much lower number

I've got a 1391 mage, so (1392-151) x 650,000 + 50,000,000 = 856,650,000 - good, that's exactly what the game shows...

my guess is that either you've got bad info about your friend's account, or the account is bugged in some way... hope this helps

I trust the info that my friend provided is correct. I think the real test is if a few other swordsman weigh in and provide their current level and next level XP requirements. This would help identify an account or class issue.

[Ryaca]

Blitz, do u really have a 1391 mage?

[blitzcraig]

@Ryaca - yes, yes I do

@Humble_M - Hopefully other, higher level swords will weigh in like you said, or a GM will test for us to be sure - and no disrespect intended towards your friend, but could he provide a screenshot to verify? That still seems like the most likely area for a discrepancy to me

[Ryaca]

Wow! 1391. Lookslike Blitz has been a busy bee.

[blitzcraig]

been playing almost since it went public

[MadMikael]

(not trying to spam, but it's too easy to mess up posts this big lol)

your mage = 182. so (183-151) x 650,000 + 50,000,000 = 70,800,00 ... good, sounds right with what you posted.

your friend is 294, so (295-151) x 650,000 + 50,000,000 = 143,600,000 - hmm... bad, you quoted your friend with a much lower number

I've got a 1391 mage, so (1392-151) x 650,000 + 50,000,000 = 856,650,000 - good, that's exactly what the game shows...

my guess is that either you've got bad info about your friend's account, or the account is bugged in some way... hope this helps

I trust the info that my friend provided is correct. I think the real test is if a few other swordsman weigh in and provide their current level and next level XP requirements. This would help identify an account or class issue.

Well, here you go, here is my swordsman, do the math.

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However, I think many of us would be interested to know the name of your friend's "bugged" swordsman, and maybe a screenshot too.